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Old 06-29-2015, 07:44 PM   #1
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This. As much as people want to bash the article, it is true. Alex does help the defense by not turning the ball over. Hell that was even said a few times as a credit to Russell Wilson.

But Alex DOES need to push the ball. While he can help the defense by not turning the ball over, he does hurt the offense at times by not being as aggressive as he should. A risky throw here and there can result in a big play and will also result in the short routes opening up and our playmakers having more room to make plays as well.
If Alex Smith can consistently convert third downs, the strategy would be okay. Not great, but maybe workable. That was by far the biggest difference between the good Chiefs of 2014 and the bad Chiefs.

The Chiefs are built to be a really good game managed team. The problem is Alex Smith is grossly overrated as a game manager. Inconsistent on third downs, not a good closer.
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Old 06-30-2015, 06:26 PM   #2
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I just can not agree with this.

Brett Favre was the ultimate gunslinger, and his lack of ball security almost certainly cost the Packers numerous opportunities in the playoffs.

Alex Smith is at the total opposite end if the spectrum however.

There is a happy medium.

We want a QB that weighs ball security with calculated risk.

Alex Smith never pushes the envelope, so when the time comes to push, he can't even find it.
Yes, a happy medium is ideal.

Given the choice though, I'd rather have a guy who leans a little more gunslinger.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:14 PM   #3
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:15 PM   #4
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:22 PM   #5
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Everyone on here is going to go bitch crazy but not turning the ball over is a big key for you defense.

Don't lose the game is often just as important as trying to win the game.


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Old 06-29-2015, 03:25 PM   #6
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Everyone on here is going to go bitch crazy but not turning the ball over is a big key for you defense.

Don't lose the game is often just as important as trying to win the game.


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This all comes down to Alex Smith being smart with the football and minimizing his mistakes. He is just too risk averse and that's what prevents our offense from being explosive imo.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:35 PM   #7
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Everyone on here is going to go bitch crazy but not turning the ball over is a big key for you defense.

Don't lose the game is often just as important as trying to win the game.


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Playing to not lose the game=\=playing to win the game. Where have I heard this before?
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:33 PM   #8
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It's all about the "Hidden" points he's scoring. I mean, you can basically add 16 "Hidden" TDs to his yearly totals. He's like the best in the game at scoring hidden TDs that never actually existed. If it weren't for the fact that they were invisible "Hidden" TDs, his TD total would almost be right up there with the best QBs in the league.

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He is also keeping the opponent from getting extra possessions. Smith is the master of 'hidden points.'

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Alex Smith is scoring a hidden touchdown per game on average.

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So rest assured knowing each time Smith is taking the safe and easy route he is scoring in his own way; in 'hidden points.'

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Because if he's helping the defense to the tune of seven points per game, that means he's finding 16 hidden TDs throughout the season. Add this to his normal TD contribution makes for a very productive player. Unfortunately it's hard to see and prove.
How can anyone argue with these "Hidden" points?
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:37 PM   #9
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It's all about the "Hidden" points he's scoring. I mean, you can basically add 16 "Hidden" TDs to his yearly totals. He's like the best in the game at scoring hidden TDs that never actually existed. If it weren't for the fact that they were invisible "Hidden" TDs, his TD total would almost be right up there with the best QBs in the league.



How can anyone argue with these "Hidden" points?
Most paths to the Super Bowl are littered with them.
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:06 PM   #10
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It's all about the "Hidden" points he's scoring. I mean, you can basically add 16 "Hidden" TDs to his yearly totals. He's like the best in the game at scoring hidden TDs that never actually existed. If it weren't for the fact that they were invisible "Hidden" TDs, his TD total would almost be right up there with the best QBs in the league.



How can anyone argue with these "Hidden" points?
And this defense gives Alex 1 or 2 "hidden" TDs per game.

We had a stretch last year where we had a goal line stand in like 5 straight games. Or how about Ron Parker against Buffalo? Christ, there's at least 4 hidden TDs right there.
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Old 06-29-2015, 07:34 PM   #11
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It's all about the "Hidden" points he's scoring. I mean, you can basically add 16 "Hidden" TDs to his yearly totals. He's like the best in the game at scoring hidden TDs that never actually existed. If it weren't for the fact that they were invisible "Hidden" TDs, his TD total would almost be right up there with the best QBs in the league.



How can anyone argue with these "Hidden" points?
Because if it were true. The chiefs would be the top scoring team in football. They are not even close.

he is what he is. A game manager. Never going to beat a playoff quality team when it counts. But wont lose those games to shitty teams either.


he has it in him to be a better player. The denver kc example is perfect of him.
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It's all about the "Hidden" points he's scoring. I mean, you can basically add 16 "Hidden" TDs to his yearly totals. He's like the best in the game at scoring hidden TDs that never actually existed. If it weren't for the fact that they were invisible "Hidden" TDs, his TD total would almost be right up there with the best QBs in the league.



How can anyone argue with these "Hidden" points?
He is very effective about hiding points, that's for sure.
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Old 06-29-2015, 03:35 PM   #13
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Without Smith, Justin Houston is a 5-6 sack guy at most.
If that probably a league minimum guy.
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Old 06-29-2015, 11:28 PM   #15
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Without Smith, Justin Houston is a 5-6 sack guy at most.
jebus, imagine if we where up by 14 at half, how many ****ing sacks he would have got
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