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Old 04-09-2019, 09:43 PM  
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Magic Johnson stepping down as Laker's President.




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Old 04-10-2019, 09:49 AM   #16
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The first thing I'd do as the new president is trade Lebron.
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The worst part of this might be that Jim buss uses this as an excuse to gloat. Magic was not good. And that call falls on Jeannie buss. But while they made a lot of bad moves they also fixed a lot of Jim buss's messes. I think Jeannie is a lot more equipped to turn things around. But relying on magic was a big early mistake for her.
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:05 AM   #18
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Exactly.
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:09 AM   #19
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The worst part of this might be that Jim buss uses this as an excuse to gloat. Magic was not good. And that call falls on Jeannie buss. But while they made a lot of bad moves they also fixed a lot of Jim buss's messes. I think Jeannie is a lot more equipped to turn things around. But relying on magic was a big early mistake for her.
I haven't followed the Lakers all that closely over the years, but it seems the biggest mistake Jim Buss and Mitch Kuphhack made was giving Kobe that huge contract as he was entering his career twilight years.

And when look at their last 2 or 3 drafts. they looked to be headed in the right direction.
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:21 AM   #20
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Does LeBron have full no-trade protection?

Honestly I'd call the Pelicans back and offer him straight-up for AD.
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Old 04-10-2019, 10:39 AM   #21
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Does LeBron have full no-trade protection?

Honestly I'd call the Pelicans back and offer him straight-up for AD.
If AD is so great, why are the Pelicans so bad?
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If AD is so great, why are the Pelicans so bad?
Good question, and I'm a marginal follower of the league at best. Just a Lakers fan.

Does he not have a good crew around him? Has he checked out? I really don't know. I just feel like at this point, the Lakers have some nice pieces that might fit better with a big man than with LeBron.
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Good question, and I'm a marginal follower of the league at best. Just a Lakers fan.

Does he not have a good crew around him? Has he checked out? I really don't know. I just feel like at this point, the Lakers have some nice pieces that might fit better with a big man than with LeBron.
Yes he has had terrible rosters around him on the Pelicans. His only good player is Jrue Holiday. Hes played with some of the worst starting lineups the last couple years.

When youre starting lineup has Etwan Moore in it your team stinks

He had Cousins for about 40 games last year and they would have won 50 games had not tore his ACL.
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Good question, and I'm a marginal follower of the league at best. Just a Lakers fan.

Does he not have a good crew around him? Has he checked out? I really don't know. I just feel like at this point, the Lakers have some nice pieces that might fit better with a big man than with LeBron.
I also am only a marginal follower, but it seems like the only time they've been close to a good team was with Demarcus Cousins.

AD has a Carmelo Anthony feel to him.
Great individual talent who doesn't raise the level around him.
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I haven't followed the Lakers all that closely over the years, but it seems the biggest mistake Jim Buss and Mitch Kuphhack made was giving Kobe that huge contract as he was entering his career twilight years.

And when look at their last 2 or 3 drafts. they looked to be headed in the right direction.
Nah - that didn't really do much to them because it was fairly short term.

The biggest mistakes were the deals to Iguodala and Mozgov and drafting Lonzo Ball. Oh, and hiring Byron Scott to try to lead a rebuild.

You don't sign Iguodala and Mozgov, you don't need to deal Russell to get ready of Mozgov's deal. If you can keep Russell, you don't have to draft that half-wit, constantly injured rock-chucker Lonzo Ball and instead you take Jason Tatum to play alongside Russell. You also don't have to build a roster full of scraps to make up for the dead weight you're lugging around on Iguodala's deal so you can keep Julius Randle.

Randle
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Kuzma's probably still the guy they'd have picked with pick they used in the Josh Hart swap, so they probably still have Kuzma off the bench. With Tatum and Russell out there you've put some shooters around James. Even Randle can play a legit stretch 5 now that his 3pt% is in the 34-35% range. He's not excellent there but he's dangerous enough that he'd have to be respected.

Iguodala, Mozgov and Ball are 3 decisions that will hold this franchise back for probably a decade. Just staggeringly awful decisions that led to ripples that removed 3 outstanding young players off the roster or simply never brought them here.

All in the name of Jim Bus being desperate and Magic Johnson being arrogant. And they were maneuvers that were obviously wrong (to me anyway) from the instant they were made. That's not even hindsight shit - I hated all those moves the second they were announced.
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Nah - that didn't really do much to them because it was fairly short term.

The biggest mistakes were the deals to Iguodala and Mozgov and drafting Lonzo Ball. Oh, and hiring Byron Scott to try to lead a rebuild.

You don't sign Iguodala and Mozgov, you don't need to deal Russell to get ready of Mozgov's deal. If you can keep Russell, you don't have to draft that half-wit, constantly injured rock-chucker Lonzo Ball and instead you take Jason Tatum to play alongside Russell. You also don't have to build a roster full of scraps to make up for the dead weight you're lugging around on Iguodala's deal so you can keep Julius Randle.

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Russell

Kuzma's probably still the guy they'd have picked with pick they used in the Josh Hart swap, so they probably still have Kuzma off the bench. With Tatum and Russell out there you've put some shooters around James. Even Randle can play a legit stretch 5 now that his 3pt% is in the 34-35% range. He's not excellent there but he's dangerous enough that he'd have to be respected.

Iguodala, Mozgov and Ball are 3 decisions that will hold this franchise back for probably a decade. Just staggeringly awful decisions that led to ripples that removed 3 outstanding young players off the roster or simply never brought them here.

All in the name of Jim Bus being desperate and Magic Johnson being arrogant. And they were maneuvers that were obviously wrong (to me anyway) from the instant they were made. That's not even hindsight shit - I hated all those moves the second they were announced.
You have those parts in place, why even sign Lebron?

Lebron has played a shit to of games over the last 13-14 years, his body is almost certainly ready to break down.

Plus he has his own agenda you'd have to deal with.
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You have those parts in place, why even sign Lebron?

Lebron has played a shit to of games over the last 13-14 years, his body is almost certainly ready to break down.

Plus he has his own agenda you'd have to deal with.
Because you have the cap space and he said yes.

James isn't one of the top 5 players in the league anymore (probably) but he's easily in the top 15 - he's not the reason the Lakers suck. He'd have fit so much better in that team and he'd have a hard time forcing an agenda through on a 3-year deal with a team that's actually winning around him.

James WORKS on that roster. The reason the James acquisition didn't work is the chaff that Magic put around him.
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