2017 QB Draft

[JD10367]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How do those people still have jobs? Jesus.

Because it’s hard to compare college production to the pro level. Brady went in the 6th, Jamarcus Russell went #1. Tim Tebow. Johnny Manziel. Rick Mirer at #2 after Drew Bledsoe went #1. Ryan Leaf went #2 after Peyton Manning went #1. It’s hard to measure intangibles, position changes, muscle addition, etc,.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Some NFL scouting departments believed that PMII was a raw prospect who benefitted from the Air Raid system that couldn't read defenses thus relying on his athletic gifts. thus he was rated as a 2nd to 3rd round prospect.

The articles I've read insinuated that Dorsey was on the fence drafting PMII as a 1st round pick in general.

3 of the 6 on the draft advisory board said 3rd rounder iirc.

I've never read an article saying Dorsey was on the fence at any time during the draft process, got a link?

[RealSNR]

Does anybody think Dorsey and Reid settle for their 2nd choice in Watson if the Bears had been smarter and taken Mahomes? Reid said they liked him, but do you think they would have liked him enough to make the same trade? Only for Watson instead of Mahomes?

I actually say no. I think the Texans WERE desperate and would have made that trade. They might have even paid more to move up higher than 12 after the Bears took Mahomes at 2 or 3. But I don't think the Chiefs would have paid what they did for Mahomes to settle for Watson.

Makes Dorsey's ability to work the draft board and know the EXACT sweet spot of when to grab Mahomes even more remarkable.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Does anybody think Dorsey and Reid settle for their 2nd choice in Watson if the Bears had been smarter and taken Mahomes? Reid said they liked him, but do you think they would have liked him enough to make the same trade? Only for Watson instead of Mahomes?

I actually say no. I think the Texans WERE desperate and would have made that trade. They might have even paid more to move up higher than 12 after the Bears took Mahomes at 2 or 3. But I don't think the Chiefs would have paid what they did for Mahomes to settle for Watson.

Makes Dorsey's ability to work the draft board and know the EXACT sweet spot of when to grab Mahomes even more remarkable.

Yes Watson is very good.

He’s been damn good playing for a dumpster fire. He’s got the same terrible OL David Carr had.

[BryanBusby]

Lets not change things too much here. Pat needed to go to the right situation and that wasn't John Fox in Chicago (lol) or the aids fire in Buffalo.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Does anybody think Dorsey and Reid settle for their 2nd choice in Watson if the Bears had been smarter and taken Mahomes? Reid said they liked him, but do you think they would have liked him enough to make the same trade? Only for Watson instead of Mahomes?

I actually say no. I think the Texans WERE desperate and would have made that trade. They might have even paid more to move up higher than 12 after the Bears took Mahomes at 2 or 3. But I don't think the Chiefs would have paid what they did for Mahomes to settle for Watson.

Makes Dorsey's ability to work the draft board and know the EXACT sweet spot of when to grab Mahomes even more remarkable.

Even the Texans didn't really want Watson; they wanted Mahomes. That being said, I think the Chiefs stand pat (pun intended) and hope Watson falls to later in the first. When he doesn't, they pick someone else. Fortunately, there were enough useful idiots for the Chiefs do play this perfectly. Huge props to Dorsey and the staff.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Watson would be great under Reid too. But still nowhere near Mahomes great.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Watson would be great under Reid too. But still nowhere near Mahomes great.

Nope. Mahomes IS that generational talent you only see once every 30ish years.

[tredadda]

Watson is the better QB between him and Mitch. He would have thrived under Reid with this offense, just not to the same extent that Mahomes has.

[New World Order]

"couldn't read defenses thus relying on his athletic gifts"

Gee, I would have never guessed. They only averaged 43 ppg.

Whatever

[wheeler08]

Watson would have been Reid’s McNabb. Mahomes is Reid’s Brett Favre

[wheeler08]

I don’t think anyone would be talking about Mahomes now if he had went to Buffalo. I don’t know if even he could save that franchise. I don’t know if I could name 3 players from that team. I could name some receivers that have been busts so far and that QB that tries to challenge Mahomes on social media and gets made fun of

[penchief]

Originally Posted by wheeler08

I don’t think anyone would be talking about Mahomes now if he had went to Buffalo. I don’t know if even he could save that franchise. I don’t know if I could name 3 players from that team. I could name some receivers that have been busts so far and that QB that tries to challenge Mahomes on social media and gets made fun of

I've never bought that argument. His talent is transcendent. Once a team recognized what it had on it's hands, even the most inept organizations would have moved mountains to take full advantage. Obviously, some teams would be more successful than others but no matter where Mahomes landed, his talent and playmaking ability would still be rocking the league.

[Deberg_1990]

Why didn’t the Browns or Jags take a QB in the 1st that year??

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Why didn’t the Browns or Jags take a QB in the 1st that year??

Because they're ****ing morons, that's why.

That's what's so great about the 2017 class. It was supposed to be a huge letdown. Some people thought it could be as bad as 2013. And it could end up being the best class since 2014 when all is said and done.

It currently blows 2018 out of the ****ing water, and that was TEH GREATEST QB CLASS EVAR