WR Deandre Hopkins?

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Not sure if that's true. DHop is closer to the end of his career than the beginning, and he's already made his money, to the tune of over $110M for his career so far. He could be a ring-hunter at this point, and therefore willing to take a pay cut and a short contract to finally be a SB champion.

And he's still playing at a very high level, at or near his prime. He might be too old to be the long-term answer at WR1, but he could definitely fill that role as a dominant bridge for the next two to three years until Veach drafts the long-term WR1.

This is true, he might have more incentive to be in KC than JuJu who might want to score the biggest contract he can. I would also add that it's probable that joining KC takes some pressure off of Hopkins to be the #1 and extends his career longevity allowing him to further capitalize.

The only thing I have against this idea, which I mostly love anyways, is that we'd realistically have to give up a 2nd or 3rd plus a late round pick or conditional pick next year, and pay him a significant contract. I speculate this is the case because many other team's fanbases are projecting they will offer a 2nd for him. When it's possible we might be able to accomplish the same production by spending either just the pick(s), or the money, elsewhere.

[Buehler445]

Idk man. He’s 30 and hurt a lot.

Edit: he missed 6 games both this year and last year and other than that only ever missed 1 a year. Seems I’m mixing him up with someone else in the Texans that was always hurt.

Nonetheless I’m not keen on paying 31 and 32 year old WRs. Plus he may hold out given what dudes are making.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Idk man. He’s 30 and hurt a lot.

Edit: he missed 6 games both this year and last year and other than that only ever missed 1 a year. Seems I’m mixing him up with someone else in the Texans that was always hurt.

Nonetheless I’m not keen on paying 31 and 32 year old WRs. Plus he may hold out given what dudes are making.

The 6 he missed this year was because of suspension, too. He's been mostly reliable health-wise.

[Titty Meat]

Not paying someone that old that much money. This draft will have alot of talent

[Couch-Potato]

I'm not sure about hurt a lot, but yes he is 30+ years old. Which is why the Chiefs could be a good home for him. We'd take some pressure off of him, give him a chance to win. He could settle in with Andy and Pat and sign a new contract with us similar to JuJu this offseason. Hopkins at $19.5m in 2022 + $15m in 2023, so maybe we could convince JuJu to accept something similar, $15m in 2022 and $19.5m in 2023. That's only $35m per year for x2 stars, where Tyreek was going to cost $30m himself.

[Chris Meck]

Given the gaping holes at DE, and OT, and the fact that we have like the #1 offense in football anyway, no I'd rather not invest in an often injured 30 year old WR.

[Dante84]

Okay so what about this?

2 locks, 1 extension
- Skyy is here
- Toney is here
- Bring back JuJu

3 departures
- Hardman leaves in FA for big money
- Watson is not retained
- MVS is either released (POTENTIAL OUT: 2023, 1 YR, $9,000,000; $4,000,000 DEAD CAP) or part of a trade package.

3 "go-gets"
- Trade for DeAndre Hopkins OR Trade (less) for Tyler Lockett.
- Sign a FA: Sterling Shepard, DJ Chark, Mack Hollins, Allen Lazard (OR keep MVS)
- Draft a rookie WR

Camp fodder with a chance
- Justyn Ross


Leaves you with:
- Hopkins OR Lockett [Big Money]
- JuJu [Big Money]
- Toney [Rookie Money]
- Shepard OR Chark OR Hollins OR Lazard OR MVS [Mid Money]
- Skyy [Rookie Money]
- Rookie OR Justyn Ross [Rookie Money]

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Okay so what about this?

2 locks, 1 extension
- Skyy is here
- Toney is here
- Bring back JuJu

3 departures
- Hardman leaves in FA for big money
- Watson is not retained
- MVS is either released (POTENTIAL OUT: 2023, 1 YR, $9,000,000; $4,000,000 DEAD CAP) or part of a trade package.

3 "go-gets"
- Trade for DeAndre Hopkins OR Trade (less) for Tyler Lockett.
- Sign a FA: Sterling Shepard, DJ Chark, Mack Hollins, Allen Lazard (OR keep MVS)
- Draft a rookie WR

Camp fodder with a chance
- Justyn Ross


Leaves you with:
- Hopkins OR Lockett [Big Money]
- JuJu [Big Money]
- Toney [Rookie Money]
- Shepard OR Chark OR Hollins OR Lazard OR MVS [Mid Money]
- Skyy [Rookie Money]
- Rookie OR Justyn Ross [Rookie Money]

I'm good with any of these scenarios. IMO they are all an upgrade from where we are now.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Dante84

The 6 he missed this year was because of suspension, too. He's been mostly reliable health-wise.

It was Fuller that I was thinking was always injured.

[Couch-Potato]

I dig it, here's my plan:

- Hopkins [Biggish Money]
- JuJu [Biggish Money]
- Toney [Rookie Money]
- Skyy [Rookie Money]
- Justyn Ross [Rookie Money]
- Rookie [Rookie Money]
- Watson [~$1m Optional Addition]

Bottom 3 battle for reps

[kccrow]

No.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by kccrow

No.

This.

I'd love Hop here - he'd be lethal opposite Kelce with his route running ability, hands, and ability to catch contested passes. But with our needs elsewhere, his return on investment when you consider the state of our o-tackles and defensive line, especially considering how we have the top offense right now without him or Tyreek or studs at left or right tackles, it just doesn't make sense.

We need to throw our resources at the non-sexy positions this offseason (defensive end not being non-sexy), and I figure it's going to bring some frustration because players like D-Hop would be amazing playing with Mahomes.

[chiefforlife]

Salary cap is important but also, remember Veach was going to pay Tyreek north of 20 mil a season while also adding JuJu.

He was also offering Orlando a huge LT contract at the same time.

So while it seems we may not be able to afford it, Veach is unafraid!

I love watching this man work.

[Couch-Potato]

I think we'd have difficulty finding a better discounted contract on talent anywhere in the league outside of a rookie deal. Guy's still a ~top 5 WR, I'd probably rather pay him than JuJu if I had my choice of either on a 2 yr contract. Trading the 2nd hurts, but not so bad if you consider you're likely to get a Mecole Hardman type, and not a Deandre Hopkins, with that pick.

[Chris Meck]

I don't know who needs to hear this, but no, we don't have time to run wasp.