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Old 02-15-2023, 08:59 AM   #1
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Is Mazi Smith a mid first rounder or a fourth rounder? Is Foskey a mid first rounder or a third rounder? Carter? Anton Harrison? I mean what the actual ****?

I felt like I was starting to get a handle on general value, but the last week or so I think I'm in the Twilight Zone.
I feel like this might be our guy. Maybe not in the first, but if he's there in the 2nd, even within tradeup range, he feels like a really nice fit.

But like you, I can't get a feel for his draft projection at all.
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Old 02-15-2023, 09:09 AM   #2
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I feel like this might be our guy. Maybe not in the first, but if he's there in the 2nd, even within tradeup range, he feels like a really nice fit.

But like you, I can't get a feel for his draft projection at all.
I was really thinking so, but I'm seeing him anywhere from low first to late third.

I mean, what the ****?
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Old 02-16-2023, 05:13 AM   #3
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I'll also just mention, this is the farthest down a respectable draft board I've seen Andre Carter, by like 50 slots.

A 6'7" monster with plus athleticism, great work ethic, and maximal coachability? At 88?
He looked really weak at the Senior Bowl apparently and strugled badly so imagine that would be why. I think he will be a 3rd round pick.
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Old 02-16-2023, 01:30 PM   #4
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He looked really weak at the Senior Bowl apparently and strugled badly so imagine that would be why. I think he will be a 3rd round pick.
You look at the tools. Does he have the tools.

Does he have plus athleticism and length? Yup. Does he have a motor and work ethic? Yup.

If you put in him an NFL strength and conditioning program, what kind of guy do you have by Year 3?

If your answer is the same as mine, then that's a guy I think you draft at #31.
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Old 02-17-2023, 03:35 AM   #5
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You look at the tools. Does he have the tools.

Does he have plus athleticism and length? Yup. Does he have a motor and work ethic? Yup.

If you put in him an NFL strength and conditioning program, what kind of guy do you have by Year 3?

If your answer is the same as mine, then that's a guy I think you draft at #31.
I am not doubting that but apparently he looked tiny which is bound to spook some people.
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Man, I just can't convince myself that Jalen Carter is a better prospect than Will Anderson.

I keep seeing it, but I must be missing something because I'd take Anderson over him every time.
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NFL Draft Buzz has Tyler Scott out of Cincinnati as their #23 WR.

Not #23 prospect overall. #23 wide receiver.

I'm sorry, but what the hell. This guy has 4.2 speed and highpoints the ball. He's Tyreek Hill in this offense.

If the Chiefs took him at 31, I'd be running loops around my house.
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Old 02-15-2023, 12:16 PM   #8
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Is there a realistic possibility VanNess falls to us?

Because I think you just take that to the bank if it's there.
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Old 02-15-2023, 01:16 PM   #11
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Is there a realistic possibility VanNess falls to us?

Because I think you just take that to the bank if it's there.
For now, I'd say yes. Mostly because he wasn't even a starter, and is a bit of a projection.

Agreed though.
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Old 02-15-2023, 03:19 PM   #12
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Is there a realistic possibility VanNess falls to us?

Because I think you just take that to the bank if it's there.
I don't get it. I mean I could absolutely see Spags loving him but please God can we get some SPEED.
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25. Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU (6-4, 215)
26. Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State (6-1, 193)
27. Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State (6-6, 255)
28. O’Cyrus Torrence, G, Florida (6-5, 337)
29. Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia (6-7, 280)
30. Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah (6-4, 241)
31. Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland (6-0, 207)
32. Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia (6-2, 210)
33. BJ Ojulari, Edge, LSU (6-3, 245)
34. Emmanuel Forbes, CB, Mississippi State (6-0, 174)
35. Calijah Kancey, DT, Pittsburgh (6-0, 275)
36. Trenton Simpson, LB, Clemson (6-3, 234)
37. Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee (6-5, 342)
38. Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan (6-3, 335)
39. Cody Mauch, G/C, North Dakota State (6-5, 305)
40. Keion White, Edge, Georgia Tech (6-5, 280)
41. Steve Avila, G/C, TCU (6-3, 332)
42. Will McDonald IV, Edge, Iowa State (6-4, 241)
43. Joe Tippmann, G/C, Wisconsin (6-6, 315)
44. Devon Achane, RB, Texas A&M (5-9, 185)
45. Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina (5-10, 175)
46. Derick Hall, Edge, Auburn (6-3, 252)
47. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati (5-11, 185)
48. Gervon Dexter Sr., DT, Florida (6-6, 315)
49. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State (6-5, 255)
50. John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota (6-3, 306)
51. Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina (6-0, 181)
52. Dawand Jones, OT, Ohio State (6-8, 375)
53. Keeanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin (6-4, 312)

54. Clark Phillips III, CB, Utah (5-10, 185)
55. Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College (5-9, 182)
56. Antonio Johnson, S, Texas A&M (6-3, 195)
57. Siaki Ika, DT, Baylor (6-4, 354)
58. Isaiah Foskey, Edge, Notre Dame (6-5, 252)
59. Tuli Tuipulotu, DT, USC (6-4, 290)

60. Kyu Blu Kelly, CB, Stanford (6-0, 193)

So many good fits in this grouping of 25-60 for the Chiefs. I'm probably ok with any of the guys in bold, if the Chiefs sit at 31.
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25. Quentin Johnston, WR, TCU (6-4, 215)
26. Jaxon Smith-Njigba, WR, Ohio State (6-1, 193)
27. Luke Musgrave, TE, Oregon State (6-6, 255)
28. O’Cyrus Torrence, G, Florida (6-5, 337)
29. Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia (6-7, 280)
30. Dalton Kincaid, TE, Utah (6-4, 241)
31. Deonte Banks, CB, Maryland (6-0, 207)
32. Kelee Ringo, CB, Georgia (6-2, 210)
33. BJ Ojulari, Edge, LSU (6-3, 245)
34. Emmanuel Forbes, CB, Mississippi State (6-0, 174)
35. Calijah Kancey, DT, Pittsburgh (6-0, 275)
36. Trenton Simpson, LB, Clemson (6-3, 234)
37. Darnell Wright, OT, Tennessee (6-5, 342)
38. Mazi Smith, DT, Michigan (6-3, 335)
39. Cody Mauch, G/C, North Dakota State (6-5, 305)
40. Keion White, Edge, Georgia Tech (6-5, 280)
41. Steve Avila, G/C, TCU (6-3, 332)
42. Will McDonald IV, Edge, Iowa State (6-4, 241)
43. Joe Tippmann, G/C, Wisconsin (6-6, 315)
44. Devon Achane, RB, Texas A&M (5-9, 185)
45. Josh Downs, WR, North Carolina (5-10, 175)
46. Derick Hall, Edge, Auburn (6-3, 252)
47. Tyler Scott, WR, Cincinnati (5-11, 185)
48. Gervon Dexter Sr., DT, Florida (6-6, 315)
49. Tucker Kraft, TE, South Dakota State (6-5, 255)
50. John Michael Schmitz, C, Minnesota (6-3, 306)
51. Cam Smith, CB, South Carolina (6-0, 181)
52. Dawand Jones, OT, Ohio State (6-8, 375)
53. Keeanu Benton, DT, Wisconsin (6-4, 312)

54. Clark Phillips III, CB, Utah (5-10, 185)
55. Zay Flowers, WR, Boston College (5-9, 182)
56. Antonio Johnson, S, Texas A&M (6-3, 195)
57. Siaki Ika, DT, Baylor (6-4, 354)
58. Isaiah Foskey, Edge, Notre Dame (6-5, 252)
59. Tuli Tuipulotu, DT, USC (6-4, 290)

60. Kyu Blu Kelly, CB, Stanford (6-0, 193)

So many good fits in this grouping of 25-60 for the Chiefs. I'm probably ok with any of the guys in bold, if the Chiefs sit at 31.
Zay Flowers at 55 is interesting, lower than a few others have him. I have a feeling one of the Chargers or Bills take him in R1 but if we're getting to 50 and he's not taken I'd be tempted to go up.
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