What is wrong with Mahomes' deep ball?

[Bearcat]

I get the "he's never been good at the long ball" stuff for those 3rd and short bombs, but a few long passes today weren't "**** it Worthy down there somewhere" and throw it as far as humanly possible, they were relatively easy throws for what, like ~30-40 yards?

And yeah the line sucks, but this is the same quarterback who used to throw cross-body 40 yards across and downfield to guys on a dime or throw it 50 yards downfield on the run, and he's struggling with relatively simple throws with no one in his face or breathing down his neck.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I get the "he's never been good at the long ball" stuff for those 3rd and short bombs, but a few long passes today weren't "**** it Worthy down there somewhere" and throw it as far as humanly possible, they were relatively easy throws for what, like ~30-40 yards?

And yeah the line sucks, but this is the same quarterback who used to throw cross-body 40 yards across and downfield to guys on a dime or throw it 50 yards downfield on the run, and he's struggling with relatively simple throws with no one in his face or breathing down his neck.

Patrick Mahomes has been pressured 54% of the time today, per @ESPNStatsInfo.

That's the highest pressure rate he's faced in a game since 2020.

— Seth Walder (@SethWalder) December 15, 2024

My suspicion is that it might have something to do with this

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

My suspicion is that it might have something to do with this

Only if you didn't watch the game or know what throws I was talking about, or read my post where I said he wasn't getting pressured on those throws at all, or that he used to get pressured frequently and still throw accurately downfield.

Besides that, yeah thanks for the suggestion, I never would have thought of it.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Only if you didn't watch the game or know what throws I was talking about, or read my post where I said he wasn't getting pressured on those throws at all, or that he used to get pressured frequently and still throw accurately downfield.

Besides that, yeah thanks for the suggestion, I never would have thought of it.

I have a habit of skimming posts trashing Mahomes for missing some throws in meaningless December games while his offensive line is consistently getting destroyed as bad as it has in 5 years, my bad.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Only if you didn't watch the game or know what throws I was talking about, or read my post where I said he wasn't getting pressured on those throws at all, or that he used to get pressured frequently and still throw accurately downfield.

Besides that, yeah thanks for the suggestion, I never would have thought of it.

On those little xy charts for under pressure he was routinely all my himself in the upper right corner.

[Red Dawg]

He's never been a great deep ball guy. He doesn't put enough air under the ball.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

He's never been a great deep ball guy. He doesn't put enough air under the ball.

Yep its pretty simple.

[O.city]

Deep balls are a lot about anticipation

I don’t think he reads it out quick, then late has to throw it more on a line to get there

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by O.city

Deep balls are a lot about anticipation

I don’t think he reads it out quick, then late has to throw it more on a line to get there

He has been very hesitant on basically all anticipation throws this year.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

He has been very hesitant on basically all anticipation throws this year.

Yeah I don’t know if it’s the turnovers the last few years or what

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah I don’t know if it’s the turnovers the last few years or what

Wr drops like Worthy's bumbling on " easy" receptions. Kelce has regressed in this area too, makes spectacular grabs then doesn't catch it and kills the drive.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Wr drops like Worthy's bumbling on " easy" receptions. Kelce has regressed in this area too, makes spectacular grabs then doesn't catch it and kills the drive.

There is MAYBE 2-3 throws all season where it was worthy's fault they didn't connect. That leaves at least 10-12 deep balls that sucked from Mahomes. That doesn't mean Mahomes sucks now, just that Mahomes needs more practice in live games to hit that long ball.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah I don’t know if it’s the turnovers the last few years or what

Skyy Moore

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

He has been very hesitant on basically all anticipation throws this year.

Yeah, it seems like he’s so afraid of a turnover he’s constantly double clutching and the ball isn’t coming out on time.

[FloridaMan88]

The season long pass protection issues… even when it has been okay, it has scarred him.