National Media starts the bashing. It's Trent's fault now.

[BigRedChief]

From cbssportline:


Green hit eight of his first nine, then was 9 of 25 the rest of the way. For the second straight week he completed only half of his passes. For the second straight week he didn't have 200 yards in completions. For the second straight week he had no touchdowns.
You can look it up: In two weeks he's 23 of 66 for 361 yards, no TDs and two interceptions, and you want to know what's wrong with the defense?

The link:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7698339

[GreatBarryWordFire]

Grossman had a mediocre day and won. Boller threw for 98 yards and won. Leftwich threw for 120 and won. Hasselbeck threw for 140 and won. Carson Palmer threw for less than 150 and won.

They're just looking for a new story. Green isn't far from the problem. No matter which way you slice it, it's still the defense.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by GreatBarryWordFire

Grossman had a mediocre day and won. Boller threw for 98 yards and won. Leftwich threw for 120 and won. Hasselbeck threw for 140 and won. Carson Palmer threw for less than 150 and won.

They're just looking for a new story. Green isn't far from the problem. No matter which way you slice it, it's still the defense.

None of those guys (except Hasselbeck) are expected to lead an offense to high-scoring days.

How many turnovers did those guys commit? Trent had two on Sunday.

Our defense wasn't really a problem until the fourth quarter. They damn near kept the offense in the game for three quarters.

[GreatBarryWordFire]

And Green really isn't supposed to be leading them either. When people think of the Chiefs, they think of Priest Holmes. Then Tony Gonzalez. Then Dante Hall. Then Trent Green.

The supposed big guns aren't doing much either -- Bledsoe couldn't find his ass with two hands and a map, Hasselbeck sucked last week, Brett Favre choked, McNair didn't hit anybody in the red zone, even Delhomme turned the ball over twice.

I'm not pleased with Green's performance, but when you consider that his premier threat in the receiving corps can't even be seen 20 yards downfield, it's going to be tough going.

I can see your points, though, and we're going to see what Green is really made out of if Priest is out.

[Hammock Parties]

Green's the freaking quarterback. It's his job to lead.

Hopefully we beat the Texans and then he breaks out against the Ravens the following week. That would be the perfect recipe for 2-2.

[philfree]

Trent's not checking down as much. He's sticking with his 1st and 2nd reads to long and forcing the ball to the WRs. I think he'll snap out of it. This also not at all the game plan we were planning on using this year either. Bo and Wilson were gonna be huge in our O this year.


PhilFree

[Gaz]

Blaming the Defense for Sunday’s debacle is wrong, IMO.

The Defense gave the ball to the Offense several times. The Offense gave it right back to the Enemy. They did this enough times that the Defense broke down and finally collapsed entirely. Vermeil pointed out in his post-game conference that if you keep the D on the field that much, they are going to break down. The Offense kept the Defense on the field and the Defense broke down.

The Offense lost the game against Carolina.

xoxo~
Gaz
Sorry to report that the high-powered KC Offense ain’t so high-powered this season.

[Chief Fanatic]

Green IS supposed to lead, the QB is always your leader, not a running back not a TE and definitely not a kick returner. He's trying, but who does he have to work with other than Priest and Tony!!!

[memyselfI]

I made the sam observation last evening...I don't think it's bashing. I think it's a legit question since the guy was a PB QB last season.

[KC Dan]

OK, I'll say it. Maybe we should have kept Gannon...

[siberian khatru]

Two very good posts by Gaz.

[the Talking Can]

cool, we can pretend its Green's fault and not worry about the defense is which is as bad as its ever been....I'll get Rotunda Moss to ask Mr. Hicks if has any comment on throwing Trent under the bus....Imagine how bad we'd be if didn't have our defense....oh, wait, just hit the rewind button

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by ROYC75

The flipside of that coins says that if our offense was up to par our defense would be much better not having to be on the field over half of the game.

2 way street for this team so far .

You're blaming the offense for the defense being out there so long?

In the Carolina game, the D let the Panthers convert on like 4 3rd and 7's on the SAME drive. That's got 0 to do with the offense. That's got everything to do with our defense not being clutch on 3rd and long.

Of course the offense could and should play better. But we can't rely on them putting up 30 every week.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Gaz

Blaming the Defense for Sunday’s debacle is wrong, IMO.

The Defense gave the ball to the Offense several times. The Offense gave it right back to the Enemy. They did this enough times that the Defense broke down and finally collapsed entirely. Vermeil pointed out in his post-game conference that if you keep the D on the field that much, they are going to break down. The Offense kept the Defense on the field and the Defense broke down.

The Offense lost the game against Carolina.

xoxo~
Gaz
Sorry to report that the high-powered KC Offense ain’t so high-powered this season.

Who the hell is he supposed to throw the ball to? Morton? You saw his true color (yellow) on the ball to him over the middle. The SOB didn't even give an effort.

The defense played a decent HALF!! For once. They gave up the 9 minute TD drive. Just like last week. The offense had the ball for all 3 minutes in the 3rd quarter. The game was decided then.

Another thing I'm sick of regarding this defense is the excuse, "Well, they got tired." Who has the responsibility of conditioning this bunch of fat-azz underachievers?

I sure as heck didn't see Carolina switching DLineman out like we did. They were missing Jenkins for almost a half and still owned the LOS.

I know what the offense is capable of. It hasn't performed up to standards. I also know what I saw out of this defense - AGAIN - and I'm sick of the excuses from the coaches and the players.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by Taco John

It was only a matter of time before the real Green started showing his true face...

This from the fan of the team with the QB who threw a left handed underhand toss from his own goal line for an INT?

I"ll be over here laughing...

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by GreatBarryWordFire

And Green really isn't supposed to be leading them either. When people think of the Chiefs, they think of Priest Holmes. Then Tony Gonzalez. Then Dante Hall. Then Trent Green.

No offense, but this must be one of the silliest things I've read in a long time. It all starts with Trent, dude. He went to the Pro Bowl. He lead the team to victories, made blocks and ran the ball when he had to, has been excellent in ball handling, blah blah blah...

...sure, others might think of Holmes, Gonzo, Hall then Green, but those people don't know the game very well. And they sure don't know our Chiefs.

Hall is not a leader BTW. Hall is an excellent weapon, but nobody thinks of a punt\kick returner as a leader. No, before Trent, Gonzo was the leader. Trent is the leader of this team, make no mistake...