What if Fisher sucks at RT?

[CoMoChief]

Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

How in the world is he a Brian Bulaga type? Bulaga is a career right tackle. He has dinosaur arms and slow plodding feet. He's a pure mauler.

Physical abilities, there isn't a single knock on Fisher's resume. He's just a bit of an experiment because he doesn't have the experience.

He could very easily become a Joe Staley type. I'm not crazy about a Tackle at 1.1, but if he ends up like that and Geno Smith is anything short of franchise, then we did fine with this pick.

That career RT is the Packers' new starting LT. And not due to injury, either. That's the direction the Packers decided to go before the draft even started.

[Sorter]

You additonally enhance your 4manbfront and require less calls that utilize secondary blitzers (DJ, Berry, Dunta). You also would have a DE who is athletic enough to drop, which opens up pure and mixed fire-zone concepts.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I hate to tell you this, but...



As much as I liked Barkevious Mingo in the draft, he isn't beating out either of these guys and you don't take a guy 1.1 to be a special teams player.

We traded for Alex Smith, so the QB position is out.
We signed Sean Smith and had Brandon Flowers. CB is out.
We picked Dontari Poe at #11 in 2012, so a DT is out.

However, we had a potential holdout or trade or other such messy situation looming with Brandon Albert, who only really had one decent year of tape who also has poor fundamentals/technique for a NFL LT and a one year guy in Stephenson and Allen as potential tackles.

Fisher's combination of size, athleticism, intelligence and work ethic made him the obvious choice once the free agency signing period was over and the Chiefs filled their holes.

One could have made an argument for Sheldon Richardson as a replacement for Glenn Dorsey, but he's more of a 43 DT anyway versus a 34 DE.

And I don't think that Fisher is going to bust. Guys with his complete package don't come around very often and despite his steeper learning curve in terms of adjusting to talent, I think that he'll be a pretty solid player by the time the season rolls around full swing.

While it's a steep comparison, his measurable, size and athleticism is similar to former Jaguar standout Tony Boselli. Being regarded as "the best player in the draft" I think that should be his ceiling or expected ceiling. (Although, I'd take a 90% Boselli if Fisher was able to play twice as long as what Boselli did.)

One could argue that Richardson is a perfect 3 technique and would have, if paired with Poe (who is having a good camp) made our DL a strength.

You could also make a case that Mingo and/or Jordan would be Hali's replacement the same way Fisher will (likely) replace Albert after this season.

It's not as if we are going to be sitting in base sets all day anyway, so the rhetoric that another pass rusher would have to play special teams only is a bit outdated.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

One could argue that Richardson is a perfect 3 technique and would have, if paired with Poe (who is having a good camp) made our DL a strength.

You could also make a case that Mingo and/or Jordan would be Hali's replacement the same way Fisher will (likely) replace Albert after this season.

It's not as if we are going to be sitting in base sets all day anyway, so the rhetoric that another pass rusher would have to play special teams only is a bit outdated.

I think you are going to see a lot of Poe at the three tech this next season with Powe at the NT. And considering that Toribio has been serviceable to solid, that's plenty of potential depth at the nose.

NT: Powe, Toribio
DE: Jackson, DeVito, Bailey, Poe

You want more than that?

Hali, due to his strict off-season training, most likely will play at this level for another 4 or 5 seasons. Houston is really a year or two from even entering his prime. Mingo, unless he's a total prodigy, would not see the field much other than subpackages and special teams and that isn't what you want from a 1.1 pick. No, taking a pass rusher early in the 2013 NFL Draft would have been a complete waste of a pick. Sure, take one, a go getter/hard worker or a boom/bust guy later and see if they pan out, which they did in Catapano, but not one at 1.1.

Whereas, with the offensive tackle position, you basically had Albert and Stephenson and that's about it. And Albert's situation was questionable leading up to and even after the draft and still is.

Fisher wasn't a sexy pick, and you know who I wanted, but I can see the necessity of drafting Eric over any other player by this team.

[O.city]

I love tamba but there's just no way he plays at that high level 4-5 more years. He's already showing signs of slowing.

It just depends on fisher.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

I love tamba but there's just no way he plays at that high level 4-5 more years. He's already showing signs of slowing.

It just depends on fisher.

As long as they are Chiefs they dont play each other in games so they have 0 affect on each others career numbers.


To say that it is just silly.

[O.city]

I meant depends on fishers development and what he is, what he is in regards to if we should have taken someone else. Nothing to do with Hali

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

I love tamba but there's just no way he plays at that high level 4-5 more years. He's already showing signs of slowing.

It just depends on fisher.

Everyone thought that Tamba was too slow five years ago. The guy is a machine. I'll bet a dollar to a doughnut that he has his best year statistically this coming season and that he won't decline in performance for another four seasons.

[Ace Gunner]

heard somebody talking at the hardware store today about the defense using 46 d alignment with DJ & berry during TC saccapoo

[Ace Gunner]

also heard Fisher has been nursing a hand injury.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

also heard Fisher has been nursing a hand injury.

That's convenient. Don't believe it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SNR

That career RT is the Packers' new starting LT. And not due to injury, either. That's the direction the Packers decided to go before the draft even started.

Maybe so, but it's a stupid move. He's an okay Right Tackle, let alone a Left Tackle.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

also heard Fisher has been nursing a hand injury.

Originally Posted by Clayton Bibsby

That's convenient. Don't believe it.

Do you even read the thread?

Originally Posted by TribalElder

Fisher, the first pick in the draft, has already won him over, although Fisher occasionally struggles against experienced defenders in practice. He has athletic skills similar to Joe Thomas of the Cleveland Browns, but what pleases Reid is Fisher's toughness. In his first training camp practice, Fisher badly injured two fingers on his right hand. He stayed in practice and tried to go against defenders mostly left-handed. Within a few days, he did some damage to his left hand. Those injuries have caused him to be a little inconsistent blocking, but Reid isn't concerned. Fisher is smart, talented and dedicated. With Branden Albert doing well at left tackle, the offensive line is looking solid.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/trainingcamp1...ise?src=mobile

Damaged Goods lol

[Setsuna]

If it's not in the OP it's not worth my time.

[BossChief]

Ignorant poster is ignorant.