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Old 03-19-2023, 12:16 AM   #1
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I'm off this bandwagon since we signed Taylor. Our zero depth behind Toney, Skyy, and MVS is more concerning. We really need somebody or the WR core will collapse at the firse injury, which will be Toney.
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Old 03-19-2023, 12:20 AM   #2
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I'm off this bandwagon since we signed Taylor. Our zero depth behind Toney, Skyy, and MVS is more concerning. We really need somebody or the WR core will collapse at the firse injury, which will be Toney.
I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:11 AM   #3
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I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.
There's no way the Chiefs move a RT to LT? Interesting theory.

The Chiefs just gave more money to a RT than their previous LT signed for that they moved from RT.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:28 AM   #4
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There's no way the Chiefs move a RT to LT? Interesting theory.

The Chiefs just gave more money to a RT than their previous LT signed for that they moved from RT.
Money is irrelevant. Top-tier RT salaries are approaching LT money. Is what it is.

The Chiefs didn't move Orlando from RT to LT, the Ravens did that. The Chiefs were clearly not satisfied with Orlando's performance this year and they rightly shouldn't have been. It's exclusive from the other situation where Wylie was an even bigger bag of dicks, he just so happened to cost substantially less.

Taylor has played a whopping 2 career collegiate games at LT. Him playing LT is a fallback plan, not THE plan. I'm confident of that. Taylor made that abundantly clear in his presser.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:36 AM   #5
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The Chiefs didn't move Orlando from RT to LT, the Ravens did that.
Give me a ****ing break. He subbed in for half a season after their starting LT went down with a season ending injury and then they traded him. The Ravens actually moved him to RT after he played LT in college.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:16 AM   #6
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I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.
They basically did do that with Orlando though. Taylor is a way better athlete than him seems fully comfortable with the switch. They are paying him LT money.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:12 PM   #7
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I have significant doubt that "Taylor to LT" is anything but a well-crafted illusion. If KC doesn't trade for Tunsil, they are probably moving up in the first. There's no way on Earth that the Chiefs do something like that IMO.
Im kind of hoping that this is the plan, to be honest. It is the best way to put the BEST O line in front of Patrick.

You can have the highest paid RT if your LT is on a rookie deal.

Yeah we have a rookie at LT but the rest of the line is amazing, leaving us with only one questionable spot, LT.

I think Taylor can make the switch if necessary but then we have two questionable spots, both Tackles. Not ideal, basically what we had last year but with more upside.

I dont like that we dont get a 1st round edge in this scenario but given it solves the O line for years, Id take it and be happy.
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Old 03-19-2023, 04:08 PM   #8
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Im kind of hoping that this is the plan, to be honest. It is the best way to put the BEST O line in front of Patrick.

You can have the highest paid RT if your LT is on a rookie deal.

Yeah we have a rookie at LT but the rest of the line is amazing, leaving us with only one questionable spot, LT.

I think Taylor can make the switch if necessary but then we have two questionable spots, both Tackles. Not ideal, basically what we had last year but with more upside.

I dont like that we dont get a 1st round edge in this scenario but given it solves the O line for years, Id take it and be happy.
After signing Omenihu, the need at ER is much less than it was. We need another player at least but not necessarily an immediate starter. I don't know that the Chiefs will go that way in the 1st even if they don't trade up for an OT or WR.

As for trading up, what I've been seeing is that people are enamored with "don't trade multiple 1s" but then the reality is we're 1 pick removed from saying we're giving up multiple 2's. It's not like we're giving up two top-15 picks anymore. If Veach wants it, he should go up and get it.

There has been communication with Houston, so I'm guessing they also discussed the cost to move to #12...

I'd guess it's:
#1-31, #2-63, #3-95, #6-207, 2024-1
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#1-12, #3-73

I'd do that for Broderick Jones.

With 73, you could move back up into the 60's for a 4th and high 6th probably. So, if there's a guy you feel like you're missing out on then go back up and get him. We have a lot of picks, and not a lot of holes.

If you can fix LT for 5 years and have RT locked down with Taylor for 4... Man, that's pretty good.

I won't pound the table for it to happen, but it's something that would make some sense to me. If not, I have other thoughts at 31.
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Old 03-19-2023, 04:31 PM   #9
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After signing Omenihu, the need at ER is much less than it was. We need another player at least but not necessarily an immediate starter. I don't know that the Chiefs will go that way in the 1st even if they don't trade up for an OT or WR.

As for trading up, what I've been seeing is that people are enamored with "don't trade multiple 1s" but then the reality is we're 1 pick removed from saying we're giving up multiple 2's. It's not like we're giving up two top-15 picks anymore. If Veach wants it, he should go up and get it.

There has been communication with Houston, so I'm guessing they also discussed the cost to move to #12...

I'd guess it's:
#1-31, #2-63, #3-95, #6-207, 2024-1
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#1-12, #3-73

I'd do that for Broderick Jones.

With 73, you could move back up into the 60's for a 4th and high 6th probably. So, if there's a guy you feel like you're missing out on then go back up and get him. We have a lot of picks, and not a lot of holes.

If you can fix LT for 5 years and have RT locked down with Taylor for 4... Man, that's pretty good.

I won't pound the table for it to happen, but it's something that would make some sense to me. If not, I have other thoughts at 31.
Yikes. Hard pass for me.
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Chiefs trade their 1st for for Tunsil, 4th for Hopkins. It all goes down on draft day.

You heard it here first, folks.
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Old 03-19-2023, 09:06 AM   #13
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Chiefs trade their 1st for for Tunsil, 4th for Hopkins. It all goes down on draft day.



You heard it here first, folks.
The 4th for Hopkins happen first and they package him with our pick for Tunsil sending Hopkins back to the Texans.
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Old 03-19-2023, 01:50 AM   #14
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Another crazy thought! We all expect Veach to get us Hopkins or OBJ which for example, Hopkins will cost about $19M. So getting Tunsil + Hopkins is just not gonna happen.

How about:

Texans get:
#31
2024 1st
2025 1st
CEH

Chiefs get:
#12
Tunsil


With the #12 pick we take 1 of the top two WRs, Quentin Johnston or Jaxon.

So now we have the best OL in the NFL plus a young stud and cheap WR to pair with our other guys.

Value is actually spot on if you look at the numbers!
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Another crazy thought! We all expect Veach to get us Hopkins or OBJ which for example, Hopkins will cost about $19M. So getting Tunsil + Hopkins is just not gonna happen.

How about:

Texans get:
#31
2024 1st
2025 1st
CEH

Chiefs get:
#12
Tunsil


With the #12 pick we take 1 of the top two WRs, Quentin Johnston or Jaxon.

So now we have the best OL in the NFL plus a young stud and cheap WR to pair with our other guys.

Value is actually spot on if you look at the numbers!
As nice as that would be I don't think CEH adds much to the trade.
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