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Old 08-14-2023, 08:56 AM   #1
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Unless Toney is out....how many snaps is James going to actually get? Gotta think he's behind the top 3 for sure, maybe even Rice as well.

THe 5th WR ain't exactly piling up stats.
He’s not even a lock to make the team so I understand where you’re coming from, but Justin Watson was behind JJSS, MVS, Hardman, and Skyy. We brought in Toney and he still got a ton of snaps.

MVS will get his snaps and you’d imagine Skyy has the inside track, but Toney is likely to miss time. Other than that, James is fighting with a bunch of rookies and long shots. He will get a lot of chances if he’s up to it.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:38 AM   #2
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He’s not even a lock to make the team so I understand where you’re coming from, but Justin Watson was behind JJSS, MVS, Hardman, and Skyy. We brought in Toney and he still got a ton of snaps.

MVS will get his snaps and you’d imagine Skyy has the inside track, but Toney is likely to miss time. Other than that, James is fighting with a bunch of rookies and long shots. He will get a lot of chances if he’s up to it.
James is a lock and might be our best WR
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Old 08-14-2023, 10:35 AM   #3
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James is a lock and might be our best WR
I really don’t pay much attention to the numbers games of this part of the season. How many WRs do we typically keep? And are there any WRs who are likely to make the roster as mainly ST contributors?

Based on my limited knowledge, I’d say the locks are MVS, Moore, Rice and Toney. I cannot see any scenario in which any of those guys don’t make the final roster.

I think I’d put James and Watson just below that group. James is a vet, of which we are in dire need, and Watson is familiar/can contribute on ST. I think it’s likely that both make the roster, but wouldn’t be surprised if only one is kept. I could see us holding onto one of these guys and taking a flyer on one of the three from the next tier down.

I guess I’d put Ross, Ihmin-Marsette and Remigio down here. Ross has the most WR potential, Remigio the most potential as a returner, and Ihmin-Marsette is likely just a career STer.

Can’t keep all of them..
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Old 08-14-2023, 08:59 AM   #4
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It helps that a healthy QB1’s floor is 4,500 yards and 35 TDs. Even if you assume 1,200 and 10 go to Kelce, there’s a lot of meat left on those bones for the rest of the guys in the WR, TE and RB rooms.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:04 AM   #5
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Snaps maybe the wrong way to put it, targets etc.

I think we may be a bit optimistic. If he puts up 500 yards, that's great.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:13 AM   #6
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Attached is the amount of snaps each WR got last year. I think it's fair to say Richie gets at least 350. Probably more since Toney is a broke dick
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:14 AM   #7
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Snaps maybe the wrong way to put it, targets etc.

I think we may be a bit optimistic. If he puts up 500 yards, that's great.
You can be a pessimist all you want. We just won our second Super Bowl in four years so I’m gonna let my inner Lil Chiefy run wild a bit here.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:21 AM   #9
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You can be a pessimist all you want. We just won our second Super Bowl in four years so I’m gonna let my inner Lil Chiefy run wild a bit here.
Oh I think he should be getting more, I'm just going based on the history of your #5 wr etc.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:27 AM   #10
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Oh I think he should be getting more, I'm just going based on the history of your #5 wr etc.
So far he looks far more capable than our previous #5s.
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Oh I think he should be getting more, I'm just going based on the history of your #5 wr etc.
Outside of MVS, this entire WR room is a question mark. Hell, even MVS himself is pretty consistently inconsistent. Still, he’s really the only one I feel like I have a good read on what to expect from him.

But we know that Andy will throw the ball 600+ times so the targets have to go somewhere. Historically, we know we can’t expect a ton from young guys like Rice and Ross. Toney will miss time, probably a good bit of it. Watson isn’t very good.

The only one who is likely to experience a realistic jump in targets this season is Moore and idk if I see that guy becoming a 100 target kind of player.
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Old 08-14-2023, 09:45 AM   #12
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Outside of MVS, this entire WR room is a question mark. Hell, even MVS himself is pretty consistently inconsistent. Still, he’s really the only one I feel like I have a good read on what to expect from him.

But we know that Andy will throw the ball 600+ times so the targets have to go somewhere. Historically, we know we can’t expect a ton from young guys like Rice and Ross. Toney will miss time, probably a good bit of it. Watson isn’t very good.

The only one who is likely to experience a realistic jump in targets this season is Moore and idk if I see that guy becoming a 100 target kind of player.
I think it'll just spread out, but I think Rice takes a chunk of targets this year. For some reason, he seems like he's gonna really fit here.
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Outside of MVS, this entire WR room is a question mark. Hell, even MVS himself is pretty consistently inconsistent. Still, he’s really the only one I feel like I have a good read on what to expect from him.

But we know that Andy will throw the ball 600+ times so the targets have to go somewhere. Historically, we know we can’t expect a ton from young guys like Rice and Ross. Toney will miss time, probably a good bit of it. Watson isn’t very good.

The only one who is likely to experience a realistic jump in targets this season is Moore and idk if I see that guy becoming a 100 target kind of player.
I think MVS is a lock for around 500-600 yards. That's just what he is for his whole career. I'd be surprised if he got much less or much more than that.
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Snaps maybe the wrong way to put it, targets etc.

I think we may be a bit optimistic. If he puts up 500 yards, that's great.

If he gets a lot of snaps he will get a lot of yards if he’s actually getting open. Mahomes will find him.
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Admittedly, I was a little nervous about the WR group when we lost JuJu and Hardman.

When we signed James and drafted Rice, reassurance settled in…

Calling my shot that James will exceed 500 yards this year.
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