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Old 12-12-2011, 03:59 PM   #1
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Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:00 PM   #2
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Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.
Way to flip flop.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:04 PM   #3
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Chief country is dead on right how many times have we heard that if Matt is surrounded by the right players he will be effective.


Hmm I allways thought great QBs make the players around him better not the other way around.
I've seen too many instances of the players around him doing their job and Cassel utterly failing to capitalize to ever think he'll be effective.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:00 PM   #4
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How embarrassing must it be around the league to see this organization so tied up in knots over the good graces of ****ing Matt Cassel?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:03 PM   #5
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:05 PM   #6
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#Chiefs LB Johnson on Haley: "We defeinitely (sic) believed in him. ... I hope he does well in the future."

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Old 12-12-2011, 04:05 PM   #7
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Like others have said, I just can't take much more. There is only some much you can take when you live and die on this team, reading every day hoping that their damn UDFA's work out. What the **** is the point. The league is about the QB, and the worst part isn't that we don't have one, its that our GM THINKS we ****ing do.

Its been said 1 billion times, maybe literally that many at this point, it doesn't matter what we do with the rest of the roster or who the head coach is. If we let Matt Cassel lead this team we are a lost-cause. Even if they do draft a QB under Cassel they will never let that person have a real chance of playing for atleast a year, atleast.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:09 PM   #8
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Like others have said, I just can't take much more. There is only some much you can take when you live and die on this team, reading every day hoping that their damn UDFA's work out. What the **** is the point. The league is about the QB, and the worst part isn't that we don't have one, its that our GM THINKS we ****ing do.

Its been said 1 billion times, maybe literally that many at this point, it doesn't matter what we do with the rest of the roster or who the head coach is. If we let Matt Cassel lead this team we are a lost-cause. Even if the do draft a QB under Cassel they will never let that person have a real chance of playing for atleast a year, atleast.
This franchise reeks of failure.Over the last few games I've been coming to terms with that. I haven't even been caring lately. The team's play has not mattered anymore, good or bad.

We root for a losing franchise.

It's time to stop caring. The Chiefs are no different than the Cleveland Browns.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:12 PM   #9
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Pest you obviously missed what I said two months ago that I admited I was wrong bout cassel. Even with time he panics he will never be a legit QB.

Yes I've seen the light but if mcdaniels becomes our HC we are screwed. I want to still believe in pioli that now is getting shaky too especially if no QB is drafted and mcdaniels is hired ads HC.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:19 PM   #10
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I think it is pretty sad and depressing that there is a slight chance that because Haley and Pioli disliked each other they each may have tried to sabotage different aspects of the team to hasten a divorce.

Pioli leaving so much money on the table and the team being very thin.

Haley going with Muir and Palko, putting Hudson back on the bench yesterday. Looking and acting like a bum on purpose.

Pretty pathetic all around.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:21 PM   #11
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I think it is pretty sad and depressing that there is a slight chance that because Haley and Pioli disliked each other they each may have tried to sabotage different aspects of the team to hasten a divorce.

Pioli leaving so much money on the table and the team being very thin.

Haley going with Muir and Palko, putting Hudson back on the bench yesterday. Looking and acting like a bum on purpose.

Pretty pathetic all around.
While I think Pioli might have done it in other ways, leaving so much money isn't one of them.

Going out and overpaying for fa's wasn't helping this team.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:30 PM   #12
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Wright talking about the secrecy around Arrowhead.

The Patriot Way Fort Knox approach is fine if you're winning.

If you suck, no one is going to stand for it. Pioli so arrogant that he never considered a backlash.

What if we lose. What if the QB sucks. What if we have to hire the HC.

They never had a contingency plan, and it's blowing up in their faces.


Mentioned how someone asked Mike Tomlin about Ben's injury after the game Thursday night, and he went through ALL the injuries. Not just Ben's.

Hell, we still don't know what happened to Cassel except he had surgery on his hand.

Acknowledge your mistakes and move on, or stay stubborn and fail miserably.

Anyone have any doubt which direction Pioli will take?
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:41 PM   #13
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Wright talking about the secrecy around Arrowhead.

The Patriot Way Fort Knox approach is fine if you're winning.

If you suck, no one is going to stand for it. Pioli so arrogant that he never considered a backlash.

What if we lose. What if the QB sucks. What if we have to hire the HC.

They never had a contingency plan, and it's blowing up in their faces.


Mentioned how someone asked Mike Tomlin about Ben's injury after the game Thursday night, and he went through ALL the injuries. Not just Ben's.

Hell, we still don't know what happened to Cassel except he had surgery on his hand.

Acknowledge your mistakes and move on, or stay stubborn and fail miserably.

Anyone have any doubt which direction Pioli will take?
I am going to make myself happy and cling to the 5% chance that Pioli will draft a QB in the first round.

There's no waybin he'll Pioli hires a coach who will say no to him.
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The first question a potential coach is going to ask Scott Pioli in an interview is, "what is your plan with Matt Cassel?"

The answer to that question is likely to deter anyone from outside the tree from taking this job.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:41 PM   #15
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Wright talking about the secrecy around Arrowhead.

The Patriot Way Fort Knox approach is fine if you're winning.

If you suck, no one is going to stand for it. Pioli so arrogant that he never considered a backlash.

What if we lose. What if the QB sucks. What if we have to hire the HC.

They never had a contingency plan, and it's blowing up in their faces.


Mentioned how someone asked Mike Tomlin about Ben's injury after the game Thursday night, and he went through ALL the injuries. Not just Ben's.

Hell, we still don't know what happened to Cassel except he had surgery on his hand.

Acknowledge your mistakes and move on, or stay stubborn and fail miserably.

Anyone have any doubt which direction Pioli will take?
Again I'm fine with the secrecy if they are winning, like stated.

I'd like to think he would acknowledge his mistakes and move on, but he hasn't had any signs that he will.

Either way it's win win. He does move one, gets a qb, we win. He doesn't we suffer thru 3 or 4 more years and he's fired moving us on the merrygo round again, hopefully drafting a qb.
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