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Old 08-02-2013, 08:44 AM  
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What if Fisher sucks at RT?
Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:57 AM   #376
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I'll admit; when Fisher first came out I expected him to impose his will from the get-go. After the first three weeks, I just want him to be average and build from there.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:57 AM   #377
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Fisher is playing well He got beat twice last night. Once by Fletcher Cox and once on a delayed DB blitz. The DB blitz was not his fault at all. It was a really good play call. Look at what we did to Joeckel and Johnson guys? We got the best OT in the draft. This guy is already a solid "B" grade player imo and he will only get better.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:57 AM   #378
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:57 AM   #379
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I'll admit; when Fisher first came out I expected him to impose his will from the get-go. After the first three weeks, I just want him to be average and build from there.
Average would be nice and a huge upgrade from dumpster fire.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #380
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He should look better, absolutely. But if the planet evaluation is not limited to his play on the field. Where he was drafted is being taken into consideration when evaluating him, and that is neither reasonable nor logical.

You can bitch about drafting him that high, but you can't say he sucks MORE because he was drafted high, and that's what people are doing.

I don't disagree the guy is struggling badly. I just hate the irrational reaction.
I can see your point. 1.1 picks are going to have unnecessary scrutiny. That's the nature of standing on that podium first on draft day.

It may not be fair, but it absolutely exists.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #381
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I dont know if Fisher will ever be worth the first pick, but I'm betting he's solid by years end. I dont think he will ever be a great pick, but don't see him being a total bust.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:58 AM   #382
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I saw Tyson Jackson throwing some bitches around last night. He was playing strong.

no problem with him being around with what he's making now.
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Old 09-20-2013, 10:59 AM   #383
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:02 AM   #384
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Fisher is going to be fine. I don't give a shit that he has been sucking, because we've been winning without him being elite. He will adjust to the pro game. He will get stronger and he will learn better technique for dealing with professional athletes and not pre-med students in the MAC.

No one cares if you think he should have been dominant in his first game. That's meaningless. Completely meaningless.

What matters is the long-term success of the team.
That's true, until it gets to the point that he's playing poorly enough to get people hurt.

I agree that he's probably going to be fine - I don't think he's a bust and I don't think you give up on him.

But you can't keep leaving Smith exposed like this. You can't keep forcing balls short to Charles and exposing him to hits because Fisher can't give Smith time to throw.

If you can make short term sacrifices that favor the long term picture for the football team, you do it to a point. But I don't see how you can keep trotting a guy out there that's putting Smith and Charles' health on the line.

He'll get better, but he can't start right now. Not if he doesn't improve to at least below average in a hurry. This 'let him play through it' thing isn't working for me because to my eyes, he's gotten less effective every single week.
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Old 09-20-2013, 11:03 AM   #385
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I saw Tyson Jackson throwing some bitches around last night. He was playing strong.

no problem with him being around with what he's making now.
It would have been nice he had made some type of attempt to get to Vick as he was bulldozing the lineman though.
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I saw Tyson Jackson throwing some bitches around last night. He was playing strong.

no problem with him being around with what he's making now.
Hell yeah, he is better than ever. Part of Houston's success can be attributed to him.
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I saw Tyson Jackson throwing some bitches around last night. He was playing strong.

no problem with him being around with what he's making now.
Jackson did a pretty hefty re-structure of his contract and I can't disagree with you here. He's been decent to good for the last half of last year and these first three games.

He's going to be forever haunted with the 1.3 draft pick; but at least he isn't making that sort of money anymore.
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That's true, until it gets to the point that he's playing poorly enough to get people hurt.

I agree that he's probably going to be fine - I don't think he's a bust and I don't think you give up on him.

But you can't keep leaving Smith exposed like this. You can't keep forcing balls short to Charles and exposing him to hits because Fisher can't give Smith time to throw.

If you can make short term sacrifices that favor the long term picture for the football team, you do it to a point. But I don't see how you can keep trotting a guy out there that's putting Smith and Charles' health on the line.

He'll get better, but he can't start right now. Not if he doesn't improve to at least below average in a hurry. This 'let him play through it' thing isn't working for me because to my eyes, he's gotten less effective every single week.
If Smith or Charles get injured for an extended period of time; our season is over. That's why Fisher needs to improve so rapidly. Our season depends on those two guy's well-being tremendously; and like you've said he's done an awful job so far of protecting either of them.
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Eric Winston wouldn't be playing this poorly, even if he's not a good fit for Reid's offense.

Just saying.
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Sweet burn. Listen why don't you take your amazing detective skills and apply them to Geno Smith's stats. Or is it too soon for him?

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