Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley Field Weekend Thread

[BigRedChief]

I know you Cubbie fans got a a little thread going and we(who have won 10 WS since you have even been to one) have our own thread but I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread to talk smack about the this weekends series

Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley field

1:20 p.m. today FSN Midwest

Braden Looper
RH
Record 10-9
ERA 4.29

Ted Lilly
LH
Record 11-6
ERA 4.35

2:55 p.m. Saturday KTVI (Ch. 2)

Todd Wellemeyer
RH
Record 8-4
ERA 4.01

Carlos Zambrano
RH
Record 12-4
ERA 2.76

7:10 p.m. Sunday ESPN

Chris Carpenter
RH
Record 0-0
ERA 1.00

RyanDempster
RH
Record 12-5
ERA 2.93

Bad idea? Just let it fall away.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Ludwick has bounced around at least three organizations and has made several big league appearances and has done shit...and suddenly he's an MVP candidate?

Ooook. Good for him, though...I like him. I like Ankiel...I just hate Cardinals fans.

Ludwick has never been healthy until now so I don't think it it is safe to say anybody knew what he had including him. Look it up.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Well cockmeat, I put WAY more emphasis into the loss column...just like everyone else who pays attention to baseball.

I never go by games back...always by the loss column. It's much more important...not a big sports fan?

Perhaps the stupidest thing you have ever said.

Say a team goes 15-1-0 in the NFL. They're worse than the 0-0-16 team? (Not a realistic scenario, but it proves my point.)

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

the funny thing is...you have guys like Ludwick who have been career minor leaguers having monster seasons...guys like Lohse, Wellemeyer, Looper who have always sucked ass...playing insane ball and you're STILL 7 games back in the loss column.

Talent wise, I'd almost take the Royals players over the Cardinals...put LaRussa in KC and they'd be 9 games over .500 too...

Probably the most reeruned thing you've ever posted, and that's saying something.

Rebuilding:

Let's see, we have a 3B who will replace Glaus in two years, a CF who is the most highly regarded position player in the minors, a catcher like Bryan Anderson who is another top 100 prospect (you don't have any, FWIW) and was the youngest player in the entire Texas League last year yet tore it up, and 3-4 guys who will be starting in the rotation in another 2-3 years. (Todd, Mortenson, Garcia, and others).

Todd made the All-Star team in Single A and AA this year. He also through a 1 hitter last night.

Yes, our middle infield sucks, it sucks.

Other than that, The Cards have better everyday players at every other position than the Royals.

Keep talking out of your ass.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Ludwick has never been healthy until now so I don't think it it is safe to say anybody knew what he had including him. Look it up.

ok, fine...

but until he repeats this next year he's playing out of his ass...he's 30 friggin' years old and when I say something about Ryan Ludwick people still say "who?"

How is he not playing out of his ass? It's not like he was some sort of vaunted top prospect...

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Hootie

I'm ignorant because you have trouble reading? Because you have trouble understanding 2nd baseman have good arms IN TODAY'S GAME? Because I said Soriano was a lousy fielder with a great throwing arm?

No, you're ignorant because you don't know what you're talking about, you make circles around your point, you started calling people names when you realized that you didn't know what you were talking about, no one likes you, you haven't made one relevant point and don't know how to concede defeat.

Oh, your grammar is also ignorant. Sweeped?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

Ludwick has bounced around at least three organizations and has made several big league appearances and has done shit...and suddenly he's an MVP candidate?

Ooook. Good for him, though...I like him. I like Ankiel...I just hate Cardinals fans.

He had less than 500 career ABs before he came up with the Cardinals. He's not Ronnie Belliard, you dumb fuck.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

ok, fine...

but until he repeats this next year he's playing out of his ass...he's 30 friggin' years old and when I say something about Ryan Ludwick people still say "who?"

How is he not playing out of his ass? It's not like he was some sort of vaunted top prospect...

No, he was just a 2nd round draft pick of that stupid fuck Billy Beane. What the hell does he know?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

Perhaps the stupidest thing you have ever said.

Say a team goes 15-1-0 in the NFL. They're worse than the 0-0-16 team? (Not a realistic scenario, but it proves my point.)

No, it doesn't prove your point. Football and baseball are two totally different sports...

When it comes down to it in baseball, the loss column is what matters...the Cardinals are 7 losses behind the Cubs...

Where would you rather be...

100-62

or

97-60

?

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by Hootie

No, it doesn't prove your point. Football and baseball are two totally different sports...

When it comes down to it in baseball, the loss column is what matters...the Cardinals are 7 losses behind the Cubs...

Where would you rather be...

100-62

or

97-60

?

So one team doesn't have to play 5 games, or what?

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Probably the most reeruned thing you've ever posted, and that's saying something.

Rebuilding:

Let's see, we have a 3B who will replace Glaus in two years, a CF who is the most highly regarded position player in the minors, a catcher like Bryan Anderson who is another top 100 prospect (you don't have any, FWIW) and was the youngest player in the entire Texas League last year yet tore it up, and 3-4 guys who will be starting in the rotation in another 2-3 years. (Todd, Mortenson, Garcia, and others).

Todd made the All-Star team in Single A and AA this year. He also through a 1 hitter last night.

Yes, our middle infield sucks, it sucks.

Other than that, The Cards have better everyday players at every other position than the Royals.

Keep talking out of your ass.

I'll stop at the 'we don't have any top prospects'...according to baseball america, we have 4 top prospects and traded Gallagher to get Harden, the most dominant pitcher in the majors when healthy...

Thank you, come again!

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

No, you're ignorant because you don't know what you're talking about, you make circles around your point, you started calling people names when you realized that you didn't know what you were talking about, no one likes you, you haven't made one relevant point and don't know how to concede defeat.

Oh, your grammar is also ignorant. Sweeped?

Haha, attacking ones grammar? Awesome. That's always the best...

No one likes me? Fine. Sure. Great. Grand...

You have 150 posts and you are the biggest kiss ass I've seen on this site in a while...

I'll take my side. I'm not hear to make friends...I'm here to read about the Chiefs and discuss the Chiefs with other Chiefs fans...I live in Illinois, none of my friends want to hear me talk about anything Kansas City.

[Hootie]

(for the record, the Cubs have more top prospects than the REBUILDING Cardinals)

Again, according to baseball america.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Hootie

No, it doesn't prove your point. Football and baseball are two totally different sports...

When it comes down to it in baseball, the loss column is what matters...the Cardinals are 7 losses behind the Cubs...

Where would you rather be...

100-62

or

97-60

?

The loss column is completely insignificant for anything other than people trying to extrapolate the chances their team has. It means nothing.

Once again, you are relying on anomalies rather than the law of averages.

If you win 60% of your games, you will most likely win 3/5, regardless of whether you are 1 back in the L column or 10 ahead.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

So one team doesn't have to play 5 games, or what?

Where would you rather be? Control your destiny with 5 games to go...or technically be tied in the standing even though you have 2 more losses...

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The loss column is completely insignificant for anything other than people trying to extrapolate the chances their team has. It means nothing.

Once again, you are relying on anomalies rather than the law of averages.

If you win 60% of your games, you will most likely win 3/5, regardless of whether you are 1 back in the L column or 10 ahead.

No fucking kidding!

I gave you a scenario...where would you rather be?

That's why the loss column is more important, in baseball, than the win column. The Cardinals are 7 losses back...say they are 6 back or 7 losses back, what's the difference? Rabbidicksucker is just trying to find a reason for you and him to have a suckfest with one another...