Merrill: Chiefs won't need to make more cuts regardless of CBA

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

that's convenient ... so the chiefs only have cap room if they HAVE to have cap room.

if it's optional, we'll just stand pat.

[leviw]

Cheer for someone else then. Like whoever Vinaterri signs with, perhaps?

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by leviw

Cheer for someone else then. Like whoever Vinaterri signs with, perhaps?

DAM!!!!

so close ... if only you would of included "true fan" in there someplace.


"missed it by Thaat much!"

[jspchief]

You guys should be bitching at Lamar to spend money on our goddamned scouting department, not free agents.

The inability to draft good players and sign the right free agents is what's keeping this team down.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by jspchief

You guys should be bitching at Lamar to spend money on our goddamned scouting department, not free agents.

The inability to draft good players and sign the right free agents is what's keeping this team down.

Exactly. We havent had any good drafts for defensive players in quite some time. Jared Allen is the only late round gem. Thats why it was so huge that DJ fell to us. I would have ran out in 3 seconds after it was our pick to draft him. I dont know why Carl Peterson took the entire 15 minutes of clock time.

Eddie Freeman - 2nd round draft pick to practice squad
Ryan Sims - 6th overall pick - hasnt lived up to potential by any means and can never stay healthy.
Junior Siavii - Why in the bloody hell would ANYONE waste a 2nd round pick on a "project" DT?!?! We even traded down for that pick did we not?
Kawika Mitchell - I would use him as an example but he finally produced last season.

All of these shitty draft picks along with unproven veteran bum players, I can totally see how this defense sucks year in and year out. No wonder we cant have any Dline penetration. These guys along with Hicks and Dalton get as much penetration as a 3 inch penis. You build a team through the draft. This is something we have not been able to do in the last decade. Hopefully Herm being a former scout, we can start drafting some players that can actually play football.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by BSPimpDude

Exactly. We havent had any good drafts for defensive players in quite some time. Jared Allen is the only late round gem. Thats why it was so huge that DJ fell to us. I would have ran out in 3 seconds after it was our pick to draft him. I dont know why Carl Peterson took the entire 15 minutes of clock time.

Eddie Freeman - 2nd round draft pick to practice squad
Ryan Sims - 6th overall pick - hasnt lived up to potential by any means and can never stay healthy.
Junior Siavii - Why in the bloody hell would ANYONE waste a 2nd round pick on a "project" DT?!?! We even traded down for that pick did we not?
Kawika Mitchell - I would use him as an example but he finally produced last season.

All of these shitty draft picks along with unproven veteran bum players, I can totally see how this defense sucks year in and year out. No wonder we cant have any Dline penetration. These guys along with Hicks and Dalton get penetration as much as a 3 inch penis. You build a team through the draft. This is something we have not been able to do in the last decade. Hopefully Herm being a former scout, we can start drafting some players that can actually play football.

It's not just that we can't find stars in the draft. We can barely find role players.

We have a roster full of guys like Siavii and Wilson, who can barely get on the field. And we draft guys like Hodge and Thorpe that can't even contribute on special teams.

At least during the Vermeil era, it's like we were content drafting projects and letting them stagnate on the bench. We can't afford to wait until year 3 of a 4 year rookie contract to get return on the investment.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by jspchief

It's not just that we can't find stars in the draft. We can barely find role players.

We have a roster full of guys like Siavii and Wilson, who can barely get on the field. And we draft guys like Hodge and Thorpe that can't even contribute on special teams.

At least during the Vermeil era, it's like we were content drafting projects and letting them stagnate on the bench. We can't afford to wait until year 3 of a 4 year rookie contract to get return on the investment.

Very True. BTW Congrats on 11,000 posts.

[The Bad Guy]

I applaud Lamar as a businessman.

I hate him as the owner of this team anymore if every other year is going to result in inactivity.

There has to be some urgency. Any competitive owner in the NFL should have a sense of urgency when you haven't won a playoff game in 13 years.

Lamar isn't a spring chicken. There has to be some urgency to hold that Lamar Hunt trophy one more time.

I get his business model, I don't get the competitive nature of some NFL owners.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I applaud Lamar as a businessman.

I hate him as the owner of this team anymore if every other year is going to result in inactivity.

There has to be some urgency. Any competitive owner in the NFL should have a sense of urgency when you haven't won a playoff game in 13 years.

Lamar isn't a spring chicken. There has to be some urgency to hold that Lamar Hunt trophy one more time.

I get his business model, I don't get the competitive nature of some NFL owners.

Yep. That's why I always use the Irsay example. Indy subscribes to the every-other-year model the same way we do.

From a business standpoint, selling assets from one business to fund another isn't very smart.

But obviously they want to win it all in Indy.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. That's why I always use the Irsay example. Indy subscribes to the every-other-year model the same way we do.

From a business standpoint, selling assets from one business to fund another isn't very smart.

But obviously they want to win it all in Indy.

so which is it?

"obviously they want to win it all in Indy"

or

"Indy subscribes to the every-other-year model the same way we do"

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Laz

so which is it?

"obviously they want to win it all in Indy"

or

"Indy subscribes to the every-other-year model the same way we do"

They subscribe to the every-other-year model. Lots of teams do. You act like this is something they do because they feel like it. It's the reality of big business.

The difference is that, in a year where Indy wouldn't normally have doled out signing bonuses, they found a way to give Manning the largest bonus in the history of the game.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

They subscribe to the every-other-year model. Lots of teams do. You act like this is something they do because they feel like it. It's the reality of big business.

The difference is that, in a year where Indy wouldn't normally have doled out signing bonuses, they found a way to give Manning the largest bonus in the history of the game.

so they subscribe to the same method we do "with exceptions"


kinda a traditional model (with extras)

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I applaud Lamar as a businessman.

I hate him as the owner of this team anymore if every other year is going to result in inactivity.

There has to be some urgency. Any competitive owner in the NFL should have a sense of urgency when you haven't won a playoff game in 13 years.

Lamar isn't a spring chicken. There has to be some urgency to hold that Lamar Hunt trophy one more time.

I get his business model, I don't get the competitive nature of some NFL owners.

Thank you. This is exactly where I was trying to get at. Competitiveness. Does Lamar have it?

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by RedBull

Thank you. This is exactly where I was trying to get at. Competitiveness. Does Lamar have it?

I really don't know anymore.

I mean, I can't imagine pumping billions of dollars into a product and watching another team hold your trophy every year.

If my name was on a trophy, and my health was failing, I would be doing everything possible to get to hold that trophy one last time.

[htismaqe]

They signed several free agents in 2004.

It may be that they didn't do what we wanted them to.

It's certain that they signed the wrong guys.

But they did not stand pat.