Nappy-headed Ho?... "a drop in the ocean of barbaric filth and anti-female hatred"

[chagrin]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I don't appreciate the language in either case. However, I do see a small difference. Although I have no idea who the girls are being referenced in the song, it sounds like the "author" had reason to describe the unknown folks as "hos" (if the girls exist at all). I don't believe Imus had that insight into the very specific girls on Rutgers team, and, therefore, had no reason to use that term for a group of college kids representing their school.

I don't see this as a race issue, as others do. I see it as saying something very demeaning about someone that the "author" didn't know.

Just curious, do you own any R Kelly, NWA or Ice Cube CD's?

Imus shouldn't have said what he did, and we can forget about race, but it's the double standard that's at issue here, isn't it?

[Duck Dog]

There will always be a double standard for blacks as long as whites continue to encourage it.

We don't owe anybody anything.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by chagrin

Just curious, do you own any R Kelly, NWA or Ice Cube CD's?

Imus shouldn't have said what he did, and we can forget about race, but it's the double standard that's at issue here, isn't it?

I think my post explained why I don't see it as a double standard. And, no, I don't own any of those.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

However, I'm just wondering how far society is willing to go, in permitting a very obvious and hypocrital double-standard. Because, no matter how loudly or often you repeat that it is not.....most of us (even some of us who like some of the music) recognize the blatant hypocrisy of the situation.

There's no hypocrisy. CBS Radio isn't in control of rap music. They can do whatever they like. They didn't have to fire Imus.

Just like Sharpton and alike are exploiting this whole incident, most of you are doing the same thing by trying to drag rap into this and making the situation bigger than it really is(like Sharpton has).

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

There's no hypocrisy. CBS Radio isn't in control of rap music. They can do whatever they like. They didn't have to fire Imus.

Just like Sharpton and alike are exploiting this whole incident, most of you are doing the same thing by trying to drag rap into this and making the situation bigger than it really is(like Sharpton has).

Sure they can do what they want. Frankly, I'd prefer more corporations and music labels take this sort of an approach. As long as they do it across the board. I'm betting we'll see increased pressure in the coming months for just that, too.

Whether it's another blip on the news radar, and next week nothing changes....or not, time will only tell. I'm intrigued by where this could be headed though. Some good may come if it though, if we can really have that national conversation about the issue.

[Boyceofsummer]

Don Imus and his racial slur have context. Violence does not nor did not associate with Don Imus towards these black women.

On the other hand, rap music has been and is being used as an expression and extension of hatred, violence and senseless murder. Not only against women, but women and children, innocent bystanders and rival black men. This problem is becoming a blight within our communities, our schools, and our military. Look no further than what this board is based upon. NFL culture. The violence and killing must stop. The comparison of this ‘Imus’ event and what is reality with a dysfunctional black culture is shameful. Imus deserved what he got. Gangsta rap needs a serious war waged against it as well.

[The Franchise]

Nice.....a little piece from my home state of South Dakota.

[Iowanian]

My favorite part, is that in 2 of the top 3 songs, R Kelly, who had sex and used a 14 year old girl as a toilet, is considered less degrading to black women than Imus suggesting they had poor hair and loose morals.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...119/COLUMNISTS

Imus' language not unusual

Published: April 13, 2007
The following column contains strong language that may be offensive to some readers.

By Michelle Malkin
McClatchy Times

Let's stipulate: I have no love for Don Imus, Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. A pox on all their race-baiting houses.

Let's also stipulate: The Rutgers women's basketball team didn't deserve to be disrespected as "nappy-headed hos." No woman deserves that. I agree with the athletes that Imus's misogynist mockery was "deplorable, despicable and unconscionable." And as I noted on Fox News "O'Reilly Factor" this week, I believe top public officials and journalists who have appeared on Imus' show should take responsibility for enabling Imus - and should disavow his longstanding invective.

But let's take a breath now and look around. Is the Sharpton & Jackson Circus truly committed to cleaning up cultural pollution that demeans women and perpetuates racial epithets? Have you seen the Billboard Hot Rap Tracks chart this week?

The No. 1 rap track is by a new sensation who goes by the name of "Mims." The "song" is "This Is Why I'm Hot." It has topped the charts for the last 15 weeks. Here's a taste of the lyrics that young men and women are cranking up in their cars:

This is why I'm hot

Catch me on the block

Every other day

Another bitch another drop

16 bars, 24 pop

44 songs, ***** gimme what you got . . .

. . . We into big spinners

See my pimping never dragged

Find me wit' different women that you *****s never had

For those who say they know me know I'm focused on ma cream
Player you come between you'd better focus on the beam

I keep it so mean the way you see me lean

And when I say I'm hot my ***** dis is what I mean

Let's move down the Billboard list, shall we? The No. 2 rap track in the nation this week is by rappers Bow Wow and R. Kelly. The "song" is called "I'm a Flirt," and it's been on the charts for 12 weeks:

Ima b pimpin

I don't be slippin

When it come down to these hos

I don't love em

We don't cuff em

Man that's just the way it goes

I pull up in the Phantom

All the ladies think handsome

Jewelry shining, I stay stuntin'

That's why these *****s can't stand em

Ima chick mag-a-net

And anything fine I'm bag-gin it

And if she got a man, I don't care

10 toes and I wanna be, cause I gotta have it

Now the moral of the story is cuff yo chick, 'cause hey,

I'm black, fresh, and I rap, plus I'm rich, and I'm a flirt.

Al Sharpton, I am sure, is ready to call a press conference with the National Organization for Women to jointly protest this garbage and the radio stations and big pimpin' music companies behind it.

Or perhaps the New Civility Squad is not convinced yet that the Billboard chart toppers I've highlighted are representative? Let's proceed to No. 3 on the Billboard rap charts this week (and on the charts for the past 13 weeks): "Go Getta" by a rapper named "Young Jeezy" with a special appearance by R. Kelly (again!). Here's the "chorus":

You know we trap all day

Play all night

Dis Is Da Life Of A Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Yea)

U In Da Club

U C A Bad Bitch

Point Her Out (Oh)

Yea U Damn Right Ima (Ey)

You Damn Right Ima Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Ey) Go Getta (Yea)

One dumb radio/television shock jock's insult is a drop in the ocean of barbaric filth and anti-female hatred on the radio.

Imus gets a two-week suspension and then fired. What kind of relief do we get from these rappers and their music industry enablers who have helped turn America into Tourette's Nation?

Michelle Malkin is author of "Unhinged: Exposing Liberals Gone Wild." Her e-mail address is [email protected].

I always wanted to **** Malkin's non nappy-head, straight laced, china doll ass... She is hot for an Asian...

[jAZ]

I read Malkin's article the other day and the sentiment is right... I think everyone agrees (even Jesse Jackson).

I just thought it was amazing that it's ok to see the issue as a verbal insult against women ("No woman deserves that" and "Imus's misogynist mockery"), but not as an insult against blacks ("A pox on all their race-baiting houses.").

She's gender "baiting" exactly the same as she accuses Jackson and Sharpton of doing with race.

It's a racist and sexist comment. That she has a political agenda against racial inequity and hatred, and would (as a woman) prefer to make it about gender inequity and hatred... says a lot about how useful her POV is in this discussion.

Which is to say, her politically motivated over-simplification hurts the discussion more than it helps. Exactly like Sharpton's and Jackson's (and ultimately Imus' entire approach).

[DMAC]

We really gave this country too much freedom. It started backfiring about 20-30 years ago, and now it is starting to get out of control.

[jAZ]

Originally Posted by DMAC

We really gave this country too much freedom.

[DMAC]

Originally Posted by jAZ

By this I meant there are far too many people that take their freedom too far. Or perhaps I am not sure what I meant.

[Mr. Kotter]

Originally Posted by DMAC

By this I meant there are far too many people that take their freedom too far...

The reasonable people among us knew what you meant....

rights without regard to personal responsibility is becoming an epidemic in this country.

[HolmeZz]

Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

rights without regard to personal responsibility is becoming an epidemic in this country.

Says the guy defending Imus?