Why do we suck in 2007? Blame our drafts and King Carl. Evidence can't be denied. - Page 3

keg in kc · 10-08-2007, 02:59 PM

Been saying this for years now. The Chiefs have drafted poorly since 1994, bad drafting in general with the occasional homerun pick every few years, and that's the main reason the franchise has been stuck in neutral for nearly a decade. No depth, no talent, and too many holes for free agency to fill. We've come a long way in two offseasons, roster wise, although I thought we'd be better than we apparently are this year. The offense has further to go it seems. Hopefully another solid offseason will do the trick.

Sfeihc · 10-08-2007, 03:21 PM

You can bitch and moan about CP every day from dawn until dusk but you still cut the check for season tickets. He laughs and counts the cash while you get to watch the mess.

GoHuge · 10-08-2007, 03:34 PM

Wow, thats like having no draft for a five year period. Explains how we got to where we are. This puts into perspective how good Herm may be at talent evaluation. Like it or not he's brought in some talent.

**Buehler445** · 10-08-2007, 10:23 PM

Great post Big Red Chief. I didn't realize it was THAT bad. Jebus.

a1na2 · 10-08-2007, 11:02 PM

Additions to the roster.

Joe Montana
Marcus Allen

I forgot, this is a "what have you done for me lately" thread. Jeesh. Get a grip guys, the Chiefs are bad because the HC doesn't know how to handle offense in the slightest. Granted he doesn't have top of the line personnel, but these guys outclass anything sitting at home watching TV at the moment.

A great HC can take a sows ear and make a silk purse out of it. This guy can take the leagues best offense and scrap it in a single year. Like I said, if you can't get professionals to do their job you aren't doing your job.

10 fuggin yards on offense? Time to clear the bench and take all of the offensive line out for the second and third stringers. Somewhere even a dog finds a bone and these OL seem to be checking their shoe laces when the ball is snapped. It shouldn't be ability alone that you are nailing for failure there. Leadership, or lack of it from the HC position is the main reason we suck at the moment, not to mention that he can't lay out a game plan utilizing the offense because he doesn't know any more about offense than most of the posters here.

CoMoChief · 10-09-2007, 12:51 AM

Why doesn't anyone ever interview Clark Hunt and ask him why he chooses to keep Carl Peterson around after all this time?

I don't think I've ever heard anyone in the media with enough balls to ask him that.

RedThat · 10-09-2007, 02:02 AM

Now that drafting, is no drafting at all....I don't have a word to describe it? That's how awful it is.

We dont' have 1 player from those drafts on our roster right now.

Major setback for an organization, major setback. And what kills me is, they still keep CP. Only in KC.

I guess Herm Edwards and Bill Kuharich came in as shot in the arm to give this organization a better improvement at selecting talent in the draft.

bringbackmarty · 10-09-2007, 08:07 AM

sandy eggo do them next, or teh donx

**ChiefGator** · 10-09-2007, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

sandy eggo do them next, or teh donx

Yeah, I was really thinking about San Diego. Of course, they were bottom feeders for most of this time. Crappy, crappy teams, so we probably shouldn't take them as a point for lesson.

Let's do Denver since they have been fairly competitive year-in and year-out as well.

donkhater · 10-09-2007, 09:18 AM

Look at the Colts over the same time frame and you'll be stunned to see how good they've been at drafting.

Virtually their entire starting offense has been #1 or #2 picks by them

Manning
Harrison
Wayne
Addai
Clark
Ugoh

Not to mention last years #1, Anthoney Gonzalez, their #3 WR

Wouldn't be shocked to see some other O-lineman choosen on the first day.

Defensively,
Marlin Jackson
Bob Sanders
Dwight Freeny

Those are only the 1st and second rounders I can think of. I'm sure there are many other draft picks still on thier roster. It's digustingly good drafting.

**The Franchise** · 10-09-2007, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donkhater

Look at the Colts over the same time frame and you'll be stunned to see how good they've been at drafting.

Virtually their entire starting offense has been #1 or #2 picks by them

Manning
Harrison
Wayne
Addai
Clark
Ugoh

Not to mention last years #1, Anthoney Gonzalez, their #3 WR

Wouldn't be shocked to see some other O-lineman choosen on the first day.

Defensively,
Marlin Jackson
Bob Sanders
Dwight Freeny

Those are only the 1st and second rounders I can think of. I'm sure there are many other draft picks still on thier roster. It's digustingly good drafting.

The Colts are the epitome of a well run FO.

BigChiefFan · 10-09-2007, 09:32 AM

I would say the Packers or Jets are a far comparasion to our team. They're usually a middle of the pack type teams.

**MahiMike** · 10-09-2007, 09:56 AM

Throw out all the players names. There's only one trade you need to look at that'll explain the 2007 woes - Vermiel for Herm.

RustShack · 10-09-2007, 11:38 AM

I like the direction the Chiefs are heading in with Herm, but it sucks that it will take time.

10-08-2007, 10:23 PM	#4
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10-08-2007, 11:02 PM	#5
a1na2 Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Pittsburg Casino cash: $10004900	Additions to the roster. Joe Montana Marcus Allen I forgot, this is a "what have you done for me lately" thread. Jeesh. Get a grip guys, the Chiefs are bad because the HC doesn't know how to handle offense in the slightest. Granted he doesn't have top of the line personnel, but these guys outclass anything sitting at home watching TV at the moment. A great HC can take a sows ear and make a silk purse out of it. This guy can take the leagues best offense and scrap it in a single year. Like I said, if you can't get professionals to do their job you aren't doing your job. 10 fuggin yards on offense? Time to clear the bench and take all of the offensive line out for the second and third stringers. Somewhere even a dog finds a bone and these OL seem to be checking their shoe laces when the ball is snapped. It shouldn't be ability alone that you are nailing for failure there. Leadership, or lack of it from the HC position is the main reason we suck at the moment, not to mention that he can't lay out a game plan utilizing the offense because he doesn't know any more about offense than most of the posters here.
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10-09-2007, 12:51 AM	#6
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $7672254	Why doesn't anyone ever interview Clark Hunt and ask him why he chooses to keep Carl Peterson around after all this time? I don't think I've ever heard anyone in the media with enough balls to ask him that. __________________
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RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Now that drafting, is no drafting at all....I don't have a word to describe it? That's how awful it is. We dont' have 1 player from those drafts on our roster right now. Major setback for an organization, major setback. And what kills me is, they still keep CP. Only in KC. I guess Herm Edwards and Bill Kuharich came in as shot in the arm to give this organization a better improvement at selecting talent in the draft.
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10-08-2007, 02:59 PM	#1
keg in kc oxymoron Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever Casino cash: $9556299	Been saying this for years now. The Chiefs have drafted poorly since 1994, bad drafting in general with the occasional homerun pick every few years, and that's the main reason the franchise has been stuck in neutral for nearly a decade. No depth, no talent, and too many holes for free agency to fill. We've come a long way in two offseasons, roster wise, although I thought we'd be better than we apparently are this year. The offense has further to go it seems. Hopefully another solid offseason will do the trick.
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10-08-2007, 03:21 PM	#2
Sfeihc It's All Good Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $10010133	You can bitch and moan about CP every day from dawn until dusk but you still cut the check for season tickets. He laughs and counts the cash while you get to watch the mess.
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10-08-2007, 03:34 PM	#3
GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	Wow, thats like having no draft for a five year period. Explains how we got to where we are. This puts into perspective how good Herm may be at talent evaluation. Like it or not he's brought in some talent.
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10-09-2007, 09:18 AM	#10
donkhater Brilliant!! Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indiana, USA Casino cash: $10014051	Look at the Colts over the same time frame and you'll be stunned to see how good they've been at drafting. Virtually their entire starting offense has been #1 or #2 picks by them Manning Harrison Wayne Addai Clark Ugoh Not to mention last years #1, Anthoney Gonzalez, their #3 WR Wouldn't be shocked to see some other O-lineman choosen on the first day. Defensively, Marlin Jackson Bob Sanders Dwight Freeny Those are only the 1st and second rounders I can think of. I'm sure there are many other draft picks still on thier roster. It's digustingly good drafting. __________________ The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants
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10-09-2007, 09:32 AM	#12
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