Trade Offer - Page 3

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 09:34 AM

Playing Shack Harris (Jaguars GM) for awhile. Here's a trade offer to the Chiefs. Jaguars starting tackle Khalif Barnes (2005 second rounder from Oregon) for the Chiefs 2nd round pick. Barnes is a quality tackle but has had some off the field issues and appears to be tired of Jax and Jax tired of him. He would help start the rebuilding effort for the Chiefs and start from day one in Kansas City. If I were the Chiefs I would still draft a offensive lineman in the first round to go with Barnes and that would give them a great start at rebuilding their offensive line (I am one that believes that NFL games are won and lost up front). For the Jaguars with their first rounder I would draft a Defensive End and with either of their second rounders I would pick up a tackle and with the other I would go with a strong safety.

Micjones · 12-10-2007, 11:49 AM

Only problem is... We're stuck with McIntosh.
I'd take Barnes to shore up the right side...

But I'd rather move McIntosh over and find a franchise LT in the Draft.

SBK · 12-10-2007, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

Nope.......but well take Jared Allen in free agency after Carl has mismanaged his CAP room to the point where he can't sign Allen even with a franchise tag (I see the only way to get Allen under CAP is to get rid of LJ or Gonzalez).

Jared Allen has as much chance of hitting free agency as any of us around here do of suiting up for an NFL game. Franchise DE's do not hit the market in their prime.

**Anyong Bluth** · 12-10-2007, 11:56 AM

WHF thinks we don't have enough cap room to sign JA?

I'm pretty sure we'ree about 9-12 mil under the cap this year. But, okay..

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 12:10 PM

Here's you problem with the CAP.......Eddie Kennison, Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Kendrell Bell, etc. If you release them their signing bonus's go right into your 2008 CAP. So either sign Jared Allen to a longer term contract (after getting douched by Carl last off season do you think he really wants to deal with Carl) or franchise him and get at least a 8 million dollar CAP hit. So then you can't release players that I mentioned before or their signing bonus go against the 08 CAP. Kinda stuck here Chiefs........best thing would have been to sign him long term last spring instead of playing tough with him and trying to get the lowest dollar.

**The Franchise** · 12-10-2007, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cocina_Basement

WHF thinks we don't have enough cap room to sign JA?

I'm pretty sure we'ree about 9-12 mil under the cap this year. But, okay..

I believe we're around 16 mil under right now.

HolmeZz · 12-10-2007, 12:16 PM

The kid doesn't know what he's talking about. He's never known that of which he speaks.

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 12:18 PM

No I did research...........you know those guys need to released if your going to rebuild. If you know the salary CAP if you release a player early the rest of their signing bonus goes right into your CAP that year. So moving some of the older players the Chiefs have will hard. Right now the salary CAP will go up around 7 million and the Chiefs are 11 million under for 07. However to release said players, sign FA's and rookies will be very hard.

Frankie · 12-10-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

Guess you guys don't want a starting NFL tackle. Let me know how that current offensive line is working for you guys. How many broken down quarterbacks and running backs do you guys have now?

Chris Terry is a "starting NFL tackle." Case closed.

Frankie · 12-10-2007, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

We'll trade you Boomer Grigsby for Barnes. How about that? Is that fair?

He does a mean radio show...

Only if they throw in an additional 4th.

**jAZ** · 12-10-2007, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.

If Willie Roaf was a 3rd...

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 12:39 PM

Where's you address dude? I live in Excelsior Springs and would love to meet you face to face.

HolmeZz · 12-10-2007, 12:41 PM

McSmurf is getting taken to school.

Brock · 12-10-2007, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

Where's you address dude? I live in Excelsior Springs and would love to meet you face to face.

GONNA KICK ASS

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 12:48 PM

No I want to see if he wants to hide behind a computer or put action to his words. You see I don't hide.

Bump · 12-10-2007, 12:55 PM

I don't know anything about Barnes, when's the last time he's had troubles? has he started every game this year? A 2nd seems like a lot unless he is a really good LT

12-10-2007, 09:34 AM
RP_McMurphy Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Excelsior Springs, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	Trade Offer Playing Shack Harris (Jaguars GM) for awhile. Here's a trade offer to the Chiefs. Jaguars starting tackle Khalif Barnes (2005 second rounder from Oregon) for the Chiefs 2nd round pick. Barnes is a quality tackle but has had some off the field issues and appears to be tired of Jax and Jax tired of him. He would help start the rebuilding effort for the Chiefs and start from day one in Kansas City. If I were the Chiefs I would still draft a offensive lineman in the first round to go with Barnes and that would give them a great start at rebuilding their offensive line (I am one that believes that NFL games are won and lost up front). For the Jaguars with their first rounder I would draft a Defensive End and with either of their second rounders I would pick up a tackle and with the other I would go with a strong safety.
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12-10-2007, 11:49 AM	#31
Micjones Whose house? Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10005180	Only problem is... We're stuck with McIntosh. I'd take Barnes to shore up the right side... But I'd rather move McIntosh over and find a franchise LT in the Draft.
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12-10-2007, 11:56 AM	#33
Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9439340	WHF thinks we don't have enough cap room to sign JA? I'm pretty sure we'ree about 9-12 mil under the cap this year. But, okay.. __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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12-10-2007, 12:10 PM	#34
RP_McMurphy Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Excelsior Springs, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	Here's you problem with the CAP.......Eddie Kennison, Ty Law, Patrick Surtain, Kendrell Bell, etc. If you release them their signing bonus's go right into your 2008 CAP. So either sign Jared Allen to a longer term contract (after getting douched by Carl last off season do you think he really wants to deal with Carl) or franchise him and get at least a 8 million dollar CAP hit. So then you can't release players that I mentioned before or their signing bonus go against the 08 CAP. Kinda stuck here Chiefs........best thing would have been to sign him long term last spring instead of playing tough with him and trying to get the lowest dollar. __________________ United States Navy December 3rd, 1986- December 31st, 2006 USS Brumby (FF-1044) June 87- March 89 USS Nicholson (DD-982) May 89-February 90 USS Elmer Montgomery (FF-1082) February 90-February 92 Naval War College April 92-July 95 USS Gettysburg (CG-64) October 95- January 00 Fleet Training Center Mayport January 00-October 00 USS Nassau (LHA-4) October 00-October 02 Naval Reserve Center Kansas City January 03- January 06 USNS Pecos (T-AO 197) February 06- December 06
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12-10-2007, 12:16 PM	#36
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	The kid doesn't know what he's talking about. He's never known that of which he speaks.
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12-10-2007, 12:18 PM	#37
RP_McMurphy Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Excelsior Springs, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	No I did research...........you know those guys need to released if your going to rebuild. If you know the salary CAP if you release a player early the rest of their signing bonus goes right into your CAP that year. So moving some of the older players the Chiefs have will hard. Right now the salary CAP will go up around 7 million and the Chiefs are 11 million under for 07. However to release said players, sign FA's and rookies will be very hard. __________________ United States Navy December 3rd, 1986- December 31st, 2006 USS Brumby (FF-1044) June 87- March 89 USS Nicholson (DD-982) May 89-February 90 USS Elmer Montgomery (FF-1082) February 90-February 92 Naval War College April 92-July 95 USS Gettysburg (CG-64) October 95- January 00 Fleet Training Center Mayport January 00-October 00 USS Nassau (LHA-4) October 00-October 02 Naval Reserve Center Kansas City January 03- January 06 USNS Pecos (T-AO 197) February 06- December 06
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12-10-2007, 12:39 PM	#41
RP_McMurphy Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Excelsior Springs, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	Where's you address dude? I live in Excelsior Springs and would love to meet you face to face. __________________ United States Navy December 3rd, 1986- December 31st, 2006 USS Brumby (FF-1044) June 87- March 89 USS Nicholson (DD-982) May 89-February 90 USS Elmer Montgomery (FF-1082) February 90-February 92 Naval War College April 92-July 95 USS Gettysburg (CG-64) October 95- January 00 Fleet Training Center Mayport January 00-October 00 USS Nassau (LHA-4) October 00-October 02 Naval Reserve Center Kansas City January 03- January 06 USNS Pecos (T-AO 197) February 06- December 06
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12-10-2007, 12:41 PM	#42
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	McSmurf is getting taken to school.
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12-10-2007, 12:48 PM	#44
RP_McMurphy Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Excelsior Springs, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	No I want to see if he wants to hide behind a computer or put action to his words. You see I don't hide. __________________ United States Navy December 3rd, 1986- December 31st, 2006 USS Brumby (FF-1044) June 87- March 89 USS Nicholson (DD-982) May 89-February 90 USS Elmer Montgomery (FF-1082) February 90-February 92 Naval War College April 92-July 95 USS Gettysburg (CG-64) October 95- January 00 Fleet Training Center Mayport January 00-October 00 USS Nassau (LHA-4) October 00-October 02 Naval Reserve Center Kansas City January 03- January 06 USNS Pecos (T-AO 197) February 06- December 06
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12-10-2007, 12:55 PM	#45
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1704895	I don't know anything about Barnes, when's the last time he's had troubles? has he started every game this year? A 2nd seems like a lot unless he is a really good LT
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