If JA is traded...Gholston is our pick at 5

[CanadaKC]

I can't see Jake Long dropping to us...Dorsey and Chris Long will be gone...all the other OT's are a reach with this pick...Edwards is apparantly in love with the guy...I can see it coming...

[Anyong Bluth]

WTFITPOT....


Give up a known top notch DE who we have to pay big money to so we can give up big money to a top 5 pick that hasn't proven chit that we just had to use that pcik to replace our All Pro DE... =stupid.

I don't think Jake or Chris Long will be there at 5. If Dorsey somehow is there at 5 I think we take that pick, but also unlikely. If Matt Ryan is available at 5, I think we'll be hearing from Baltimore about wanting to trade up to pick him up, and we could more than likely get their 2nd- at least their 3rd. Carl can hold the fact that they are getting a shot at the top QB in the draft- which doesn't slot as evenly b/c the premium placed on the position. If that happens, I think we take Ellis at #8. Baltimore could call our bluff, but I could see Carl and Herm being like, that's fine, he grades out and is a position of possible need, so Baltimore can't feel totally confident sitting tight at 8.

With our 2nd 1st rounder (presumably from the Vikings) I think we look at taking an OT or CB- whichever position has a player that grades out higher for us- unless of course someone is on the board that we think has slid way too far based upon their talent.

That would probably mean we would picks in the 2nd round of:
#35 our original
#38 Baltimore's pick

#47 Minnesota's pick. If we're moving JA before on on draft day, I think they won't take anything less, and would be more than willing to let the Vikings try to sign him to an offer sheet after the draft- which they'd give up 2 #1's but 2 years off and their value drops- which Carl would probably take, but I could totally see him matching just to say F-off to them, but I think Herm would like the idea of 2 extra 1's over the next 2 years.

[CanadaKC]

It's beginning to look like the perfect storm, as I said in my original post, for us to draft Gholston. The Longs will both be gone before we pick, Dorsey looks to be gone as well, and I don't see us taking Ryan at #5. All the other O-line talent is a reach at #5...and Gholston is the next BPA. If Parcells thinks Gholston is the second coming of Demarcus Ware...that's a pretty good sign of how good this kid is. I just hope Carl can somehow get a 1st and at least a 2nd for JA...

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

It's beginning to look like the perfect storm, as I said in my original post, for us to draft Gholston. The Longs will both be gone before we pick, Dorsey looks to be gone as well, and I don't see us taking Ryan at #5. All the other O-line talent is a reach at #5...and Gholston is the next BPA. If Parcells thinks Gholston is the second coming of Demarcus Ware...that's a pretty good sign of how good this kid is. I just hope Carl can somehow get a 1st and at least a 2nd for JA...

I hope we take the BPA, even if it is Gholston, but if it's between Ryan and Gholston id want Ryan more...im just ready for teh draft to get here!

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

You shut your mouth when your talking to me (Wedding Crashers). No way Gholston is overrated, some say he disappears, show me a DE that doesn't disappear sometime during the game, if they stop running at you, your tackles are going to go down, because your not going to be able to run down everybody. He pressured Flynn quite a bit in the LSU game, I will hand it to Flynn he got rid of the ball very well when he was pressured. Uh OSU players dont play well in the NFL????????? Ever heard of Mike Vrabel, Terry Glenn, Chris Carter, Eddie George, AJ Hawk, Shawn Spring, Antoine Winfield, Ahmed Plummer, Mike Doss, Jack Tatum. I mean seriously come on, you can say players from all schools have been rated high and never projected to what they "should of been" in the NFL.

Just a taste of what Gholston has done.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YE2y_ypR9wQ&NR=1

Step away from the kool-aid and put the cup down, don't drink anymore.

If I had a couple of players to choose from, 1 from a conference like the Big 10 or a team from the SEC, I would take the player from the SEC. It is a stronger conference from top to bottom and would be tested more week-in and week-out.

Considering how strong of a team that OSU was supposed to have, they sure have flopped when it comes to bowl games.

I am not saying that there haven't been some good players from O$U, but consider they are seriously overrated coming out of O$U.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

It's beginning to look like the perfect storm, as I said in my original post, for us to draft Gholston. The Longs will both be gone before we pick, Dorsey looks to be gone as well, and I don't see us taking Ryan at #5. All the other O-line talent is a reach at #5...and Gholston is the next BPA. If Parcells thinks Gholston is the second coming of Demarcus Ware...that's a pretty good sign of how good this kid is. I just hope Carl can somehow get a 1st and at least a 2nd for JA...

Too bad I think JA is still a bigger bad@ss than Ware. NFL sackleader when only playing 14 games, stout against the run, doesn't take plays off, and even contributes on offense- not to mention showing some real heart and getting guys fired up. Can't fault the guy for hating Carl- everyone else around here does, which is why he should be forced to stay, just like we, as fans, have been held at siege by the D-bag for nearly 20 years.

Suck that we can't get either the top DT or OT, but if we can do the move with Baltimore and really look at stockpiling a bunch of fresh guys, I'd feel at least a bit better. I assume we're gonna suck next year, and will have a better idea of how Brody will work out- which means we could be primed for a higher or probably at least = pick to this year to take the top QB next year.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Step away from the kool-aid and put the cup down, don't drink anymore.

If I had a couple of players to choose from, 1 from a conference like the Big 10 or a team from the SEC, I would take the player from the SEC. It is a stronger conference from top to bottom and would be tested more week-in and week-out.

Considering how strong of a team that OSU was supposed to have, they sure have flopped when it comes to bowl games.

I am not saying that there haven't been some good players from O$U, but consider they are seriously overrated coming out of O$U.

[chiefscafan]

ok all the highlight film i've watched on Gohlston I have one question is he big enough to play de in the nfl?

[Anyong Bluth]

By the way... wouldn't BPA probably be McFadden, since he's probably going to be there based on the latest projections.

Here's one time I wouldn't take BPA b/c we can't move them at all, and I'm a firm believer that b/c of the shelf life of RB's they are rarely worth going after that high. Give me a solid line up front that you can pay less to open holes and an avg back can look pretty damn good.

That said- watching Petersen last year was pretty sick- luckily they have a pretty sweet line blocking and oh ya- T-Rich lead blocking for him!

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by CanadaKC

It's beginning to look like the perfect storm, as I said in my original post, for us to draft Gholston. The Longs will both be gone before we pick, Dorsey looks to be gone as well, and I don't see us taking Ryan at #5. All the other O-line talent is a reach at #5...and Gholston is the next BPA. If Parcells thinks Gholston is the second coming of Demarcus Ware...that's a pretty good sign of how good this kid is. I just hope Carl can somehow get a 1st and at least a 2nd for JA...

Well see the thing is everyone freaks out because you make them think wether or not they would take one person. Some are all over one guy and some hate that guy or think he is trash. Like I have said I would be happy to have Gholston, but I would take Dorsey and Ellis over him because, If we keep JA and put one of those studs on the line, we are going to have one of the better D-Lines in the league. I have even grown to the thought of having Matt Ryan, not over either of the Longs, Dorsey, Ellis, or Gholston, but I think I wouldn't be driven to throw my tv out the window if we took Ryan.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

ok all the highlight film i've watched on Gohlston I have one question is he big enough to play de in the nfl?

6'4 264 of pure muscle and athleticism, yes he is definetely big enough and strong enough to play DE LOL.

[bkkcoh]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

I see it is too late, the kool-aid has already impacted your thinking process.


When O$U stops getting their schedule from the bakery then come and talk to me.


Indiana, Minnesote, Purdue, Northwestern are really tough teams. Michigan used to be their only question mark on their schedule. and then you throw in teams like Akron and Youngstown State in the mix, that is the true icing on the cake.

I realize that schools make their schedules years in advance, but some of them are truly sad.

Most of the college programs are guilty of this though.

[El Jefe]

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

I see it is too late, the kool-aid has already impacted your thinking process.


When O$U stops getting their schedule from the bakery then come and talk to me.


Indiana, Minnesote, Purdue, Northwestern are really tough teams. Michigan used to be their only question mark on their schedule. and then you throw in teams like Akron and Youngstown State in the mix, that is the true icing on the cake.

I realize that schools make their schedules years in advance, but some of them are truly sad.

Most of the college programs are guilty of this though.

Oh I guess USC is a nobody? Once again I dont know whats worse reading your crap or DaKcMans garbage.

[Chief Pote]

Somebody help me with this logic. Why in the hell would you trade away Jared Allen and then make your priority a DE in the first pick??? Hell I thought the team was more entertaining losing 38 to 35, then the current condition of the team. BUILD THE ****ING O-LINE PLEASE.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ

Oh I guess USC is a nobody? Once again I dont know whats worse reading your crap or DaKcMans garbage.

By garbage you must mean high-quality, educated, intelligent viewpoint.

[DaKCMan AP]

Originally Posted by ChiefPote

Somebody help me with this logic. Why in the hell would you trade away Jared Allen and then make your priority a DE in the first pick??? Hell I thought the team was more entertaining losing 38 to 35, then the current condition of the team. BUILD THE ****ING O-LINE PLEASE.

1. DE doesn't become a 'priority' - it's still BPA available at #5.

2. Refer to #1 to realize that there isn't a viable OL option at the #5 pick.