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Old 09-25-2008, 07:17 PM  
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AP: Chiefs hoping Broncos' luck rubs off on them
Chiefs hoping Broncos' luck rubs off on them
Updated: September 25, 2008, 5:37 PM EST

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) - While everybody raves about how lucky Denver's been, Kansas City coach Herm Edwards finds something even more admirable about the unbeaten Broncos.

They've been smart, Edwards says. Most of all, they've been steadfast. They put up with the inevitable growing pains of young players, particularly quarterback Jay Cutler, and are now reaping the rewards.

It's the sort of thing a coach in Edwards' seat would quickly note. He's struggling with a restive, unruly fan base and an 0-3 team loaded with young players who are experiencing the same fatal errors that Mike Shanahan's Broncos displayed while Cutler and other young athletes were coming around.

"Mike's been patient. He's been very patient with (Cutler)," said Edwards. "Brought him along, and the guy's gotten better. He's learned from his errors. And they stuck together and the guy's just gotten better and gotten better. Now all of a sudden, he's playing well and he's got some confidence."

It's the same future Edwards foresees for the Chiefs (0-3) once they work their way past this painful process of on-the-job training. The next test in the education will be dished out by the Broncos (3-0) at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday.

With Cutler ranking second in the league with 914 yards passing, the Broncos are one of five 3-0 teams and have a passing offense ranking second.

"They've won some close games. They're putting up a lot of points and he's doing a great job and that's what you like to see," Edwards said.

"Here's a guy they developed at quarterback. How about that? They developed a quarterback. They drafted a guy three years ago and he finally is playing good after three years. He's playing what they thought they were going to get. They sat there and they developed the guy. And it's taken that long for them to do it."

Brodie Croyle, in his third year with Kansas City, is supposed to be the quarterback of the future but is having trouble staying on the field. Felled by a shoulder injury, he's marking time until he can come back, possibly in mid-October.

Cutler himself feels bad for his counterpart.

"They put me in as a rookie, let me develop for a year or so and here we are," said Cutler, who's 2-0 against the Chiefs. "You've got to be in there to learn and experience stuff. I talk to Brodie every once in a while. It's tough when you get hurt as a young quarterback because you don't get those snaps. You don't get that time in practice."

The Chiefs will be out to win for the first time in 13 games, a franchise-worst skid that has fans calling for the scalp of general manager Carl Peterson and just about everyone else in the front office whose name they know how to pronounce.

A victory, Edwards said, would be "like three Christmases rolled into one. And New Year's. And everything else."

For the third straight week, Edwards is making a change at quarterback.

This week it's Damon Huard's turn to take the reins. The 12-year veteran, who was benched in favor of Tyler Thigpen in the third week, now sends Thigpen back to the sideline and gets his second start in a season that is threatening to turn into something totally forgettable.

Adding to the Chiefs' angst will be the name of the man who'll be snapping the ball to Cutler. It's none other than Casey Wiegmann, who served as KC's highly capable center from 2001-07, helping anchor what used to be one of the best offensive lines in Chiefs history.

Signed by the Broncos after the Chiefs cut him, Wiegmann became the Broncos' starter when Tom Nalen went on injured reserve.

"Casey was such a great player from Kansas City for so many years and we were just shocked that he was on the street," said Shanahan. "When we saw that he was on the street, we just tried to gobble him up as quickly as we could knowing that any injury is possible during the season."
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:44 PM   #31
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He had to. Anything to save face after getting dominated by Gunther.

You think Gunther smack is going to impress anybody? You can hold onto that like my two year old holds on to his woobie - but it isn't going to keep the scary monsters away.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:45 PM   #32
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If Jay Cutler passes for more than 350 yards against the Chiefs I will proudly wear this avatar all season long.
Hollow words from a kid with no sense of honor.
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You think Gunther smack is going to impress anybody? You can hold onto that like my two year old holds on to his woobie - but it isn't going to keep the scary monsters away.
As far as I'm concerned Shanahan has never emotionally recovered from the savage beatings Gunther gave him two years in a row. How many playoff games has Shanahan won since? I rest my case.
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Old 09-25-2008, 11:46 PM   #35
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You guys are set at defensive tackle?

Yeah, they are. Try watching a game or two. Teams are not running up the middle on them, they're killing them by running wide. Are they the best tandem in the league? No. But is it a critical need that has to be addressed over LDE, MLB, and both safety spots? Nope.
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As far as I'm concerned Shanahan has never emotionally recovered from the savage beatings Gunther gave him two years in a row. How many playoff games has Shanahan won since? I rest my case.

That would explain why your team has failed to win anything meaningful since Denver took you in your own house back in '97.

Eleven years later, and your organization is still reeling.
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Teams are not running up the middle on them
Oh boy...get ready for the Chiefs. That's ALL we do.
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I was hoping Brodie would be ready by this game so I could see who would get up first when he was tackled by Boss the first time.

Probably Brodie.
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OK, that was funny.

But seriously, Boss Bailey, come on down. Larry is waiting for your tackle attempt.
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:38 AM   #40
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I find Herm's Chiefs to be not unlike "dada" art- unimaginative, unimpressive, pointless and without direction and yet someone (Clark Hunt) is willing to pay a great deal of money for it and that fact does bemuse me a bit.
good comparison.

this Dada piece reminds me of Carl and Herm:
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He had to. Anything to save face after getting dominated by Gunther.
Gun owned Shanny. 4-0.
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As far as I'm concerned Shanahan has never emotionally recovered from the savage beatings Gunther gave him two years in a row. How many playoff games has Shanahan won since? I rest my case.
The same number that Carl has won in his entire tenure.
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That would explain why your team has failed to win anything meaningful since Denver took you in your own house back in '97.

Eleven years later, and your organization is still reeling.
You'll have to explain to KCJohnny that 11 years is longer than a decade.
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denver usually does not have that great of talent. top to bottom, the are never the most talented team in the NFL, not since their superbowls a decade ago. maybe they even are middle of the road most years. they have made tons of bad picks and free agent signings.

but shanahan always has teams gameplanned, they always exploit our weaknesses on defense like surgeons, they end up making adjustments we can't adjust to.

i'm surprised people are feeling cocky when the league's best offense so far is visiting the league's worst defense. normally you look at that and say, we're screwed.

and that is to say nothing of the league's worst offense also playing in the game.
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All Herm has left is hope huh?


Well this is just ****ing great. Folks we have the worst HC in the NFL.

And it's not even close.
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