Walterfootball.com Mock Drafts - Page 3

talastan · 12-18-2008, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23

67. Kansas City Chiefs: Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU
Napoleon Harris was Kansas City's middle linebacker when the season began. That failed miserably, as Harris was cut a few weeks ago. Pat Thomas took Harris' spot, and based on Kansas City's defensive rankings - click here for accurate NFL Run, Pass Defensive Rankings - it hasn't exactly worked out too well.

Derrick Johnson recently moved to inside linebacker. I don't think that's going to end well. This position needs to be addressed.

Don't think I would necessiarly like this pick. Kinda small for a ILB according to his LSU profile webpage. 6-1 232 IIRC. Haven't really seen him play though so who knows for sure.

Spicy McHaggis · 12-19-2008, 12:30 AM

I'd like to see KC take a look at Kraig Urbik OG/RT in the middle rounds. I've gotten to see him play for a couple of seasons and the guy is a big reason Wisconsin was able to have any sort of offensive success despite lacking some talent at the skill positions.

milkman · 12-20-2008, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

I'd like to see KC take a look at Kraig Urbik OG/RT in the middle rounds. I've gotten to see him play for a couple of seasons and the guy is a big reason Wisconsin was able to have any sort of offensive success despite lacking some talent at the skill positions.

I'm a big fan of Urbik also.

If one of the top LBs somehow fell to the 2nd round and we got Urbik in the third and Fenuki Tupou out of Oregon in the 4th, I'd feel pretty good about this draft.

aturnis · 12-21-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I'm a big fan of Urbik also.

If one of the top LBs somehow fell to the 2nd round and we got Urbik in the third and Fenuki Tupou out of Oregon in the 4th, I'd feel pretty good about this draft.

Some think Urbik may fall to the 4th. What do you think?

milkman · 12-21-2008, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Some think Urbik may fall to the 4th. What do you think?

It's really hard to say, especially this early, but I don't see him getting out of the third round at this point.

BigChiefFan · 12-19-2008, 11:08 AM

I like the first two picks of that mock Warpath-I seriously considered Mack as the Chiefs 2nd round pick, as well. I think Orako is going to be damn good, too. We need to upgrade both positions, but we also get good value out of both picks. We can do better than Ellerbe, though.

aturnis · 12-19-2008, 05:50 PM

I personally wonder if the 2nd is too high for a center. It's commonly thought to be the easiest spot to play on the O-line. What about right tackle or right guard?

Ultra Peanut · 12-27-2008, 09:36 PM

Orakpo + Mack would be an automagical sexy time.

bowener · 12-28-2008, 03:47 AM

What is the early verdict on Dorsey's old teammate Tyson Jackson, DE. He's big and fast, just wondered what the knocks are on him.

Mecca · 12-29-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bowener

What is the early verdict on Dorsey's old teammate Tyson Jackson, DE. He's big and fast, just wondered what the knocks are on him.

Do you really want a 290lb end.....at the NFL level he's a 3-4 guy.

KcGopher · 12-30-2008, 02:13 PM

despite how bad our defense was i still think we need to go QB (or OL) in the first round. thigpen is not the answer.

aturnis · 12-30-2008, 02:32 PM

oh no! new guy!

aturnis · 01-01-2009, 02:04 PM

Update -

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
Still Brian Orakpo. I've seen some mocks with a quarterback going here, but since I don't think Sam Bradford will declare, that's not really an option.

Not that it should be anyway - Tyler Thigpen has done a really remarkable job this year, commanding Kansas City's offense to 21.6 points per game ever since taking over as the full-time starter on Oct. 26. I know he's guilty of a lot of turnovers, but this was essentially his rookie year. He'll continue to get better.

Besides, if you have a lot of holes like the Chiefs do, why would you upgrade one of your strengths? It makes no sense, especially considering how bad the defense is. Kansas City had just 10 sacks on the year!

The Chiefs foolishly traded away Jared Allen prior to the 2008 Draft, while moving Tamba Hali to right end failed miserably. Hali, now back at left end, needs a dominant pass-rusher across from him to once again play at his 2007 level.

That man can be Brian Orakpo. In 11 games, Orakpo had 15.5 tackles for loss and 10.5 sacks, as he's established himself as the premier defensive end in this draft class. Kansas City's young defense would greatly benefit from having him rushing the opposing quarterback.

By the way, I saw that one of ESPN's draft guys had Aaron Maybin, a defensive end from Penn State, going in this slot. That's great, except Maybin already told the media and coaching staff he's coming back for his redshirt junior year. Maybin could ultimately declare, and if he does, he'll go top five. For now, he won't be in my mock.

34. # Kansas City Chiefs: Max Unger, C, Oregon
More than half of Kansas City's roster needs to be upgraded. You can include the center position, currently occupied by Rudy Niswanger.

Pick change; previously Alex Mack, C

67. Kansas City Chiefs: Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU
Napoleon Harris was Kansas City's middle linebacker when the season began. That failed miserably, as Harris was cut a few weeks ago. Pat Thomas took Harris' spot, and based on Kansas City's defensive rankings - click here for accurate NFL Run, Pass Defensive Rankings - it hasn't exactly worked out too well.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-02-2009, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Update -

3. Kansas City Chiefs: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
Still Brian Orakpo. I've seen some mocks with a quarterback going here, but since I don't think Sam Bradford will declare, that's not really an option.

Not that it should be anyway - Tyler Thigpen has done a really remarkable job this year, commanding Kansas City's offense to 21.6 points per game ever since taking over as the full-time starter on Oct. 26. I know he's guilty of a lot of turnovers, but this was essentially his rookie year. He'll continue to get better.

Besides, if you have a lot of holes like the Chiefs do, why would you upgrade one of your strengths? It makes no sense, especially considering how bad the defense is. Kansas City had just 10 sacks on the year!

The Chiefs foolishly traded away Jared Allen prior to the 2008 Draft, while moving Tamba Hali to right end failed miserably. Hali, now back at left end, needs a dominant pass-rusher across from him to once again play at his 2007 level.

That man can be Brian Orakpo. In 11 games, Orakpo had 15.5 tackles for loss and 10.5 sacks, as he's established himself as the premier defensive end in this draft class. Kansas City's young defense would greatly benefit from having him rushing the opposing quarterback.

By the way, I saw that one of ESPN's draft guys had Aaron Maybin, a defensive end from Penn State, going in this slot. That's great, except Maybin already told the media and coaching staff he's coming back for his redshirt junior year. Maybin could ultimately declare, and if he does, he'll go top five. For now, he won't be in my mock.

I know for a fact that this guy just looks at the fantasy football stats, and doesn't review actual game film concerning Thigpen.

aturnis · 01-01-2009, 02:05 PM

Steelers stole Alex Mack. ****ing Thieves.

12-19-2008, 12:30 AM	#2
Spicy McHaggis Keep 'er Movin' Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $9905359	I'd like to see KC take a look at Kraig Urbik OG/RT in the middle rounds. I've gotten to see him play for a couple of seasons and the guy is a big reason Wisconsin was able to have any sort of offensive success despite lacking some talent at the skill positions. __________________ “We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly.
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12-19-2008, 11:08 AM	#6
BigChiefFan MVP Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: In the Top 10 Casino cash: $9924205	I like the first two picks of that mock Warpath-I seriously considered Mack as the Chiefs 2nd round pick, as well. I think Orako is going to be damn good, too. We need to upgrade both positions, but we also get good value out of both picks. We can do better than Ellerbe, though. __________________ A 35 year drought can make you thirsty.
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12-19-2008, 05:50 PM	#7
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	I personally wonder if the 2nd is too high for a center. It's commonly thought to be the easiest spot to play on the O-line. What about right tackle or right guard?
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12-27-2008, 09:36 PM	#8
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12-28-2008, 03:47 AM	#9
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12-30-2008, 02:13 PM	#11
KcGopher Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10004900	despite how bad our defense was i still think we need to go QB (or OL) in the first round. thigpen is not the answer.
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12-30-2008, 02:32 PM	#12
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01-01-2009, 02:04 PM	#13
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	Update - 3. Kansas City Chiefs: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas Still Brian Orakpo. I've seen some mocks with a quarterback going here, but since I don't think Sam Bradford will declare, that's not really an option. Not that it should be anyway - Tyler Thigpen has done a really remarkable job this year, commanding Kansas City's offense to 21.6 points per game ever since taking over as the full-time starter on Oct. 26. I know he's guilty of a lot of turnovers, but this was essentially his rookie year. He'll continue to get better. Besides, if you have a lot of holes like the Chiefs do, why would you upgrade one of your strengths? It makes no sense, especially considering how bad the defense is. Kansas City had just 10 sacks on the year! The Chiefs foolishly traded away Jared Allen prior to the 2008 Draft, while moving Tamba Hali to right end failed miserably. Hali, now back at left end, needs a dominant pass-rusher across from him to once again play at his 2007 level. That man can be Brian Orakpo. In 11 games, Orakpo had 15.5 tackles for loss and 10.5 sacks, as he's established himself as the premier defensive end in this draft class. Kansas City's young defense would greatly benefit from having him rushing the opposing quarterback. By the way, I saw that one of ESPN's draft guys had Aaron Maybin, a defensive end from Penn State, going in this slot. That's great, except Maybin already told the media and coaching staff he's coming back for his redshirt junior year. Maybin could ultimately declare, and if he does, he'll go top five. For now, he won't be in my mock. 34. # Kansas City Chiefs: Max Unger, C, Oregon More than half of Kansas City's roster needs to be upgraded. You can include the center position, currently occupied by Rudy Niswanger. Pick change; previously Alex Mack, C 67. Kansas City Chiefs: Darry Beckwith, ILB, LSU Napoleon Harris was Kansas City's middle linebacker when the season began. That failed miserably, as Harris was cut a few weeks ago. Pat Thomas took Harris' spot, and based on Kansas City's defensive rankings - click here for accurate NFL Run, Pass Defensive Rankings - it hasn't exactly worked out too well.
Posts: 13,873

01-01-2009, 02:05 PM	#15
aturnis MVP Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Iowa Casino cash: $9975811	Steelers stole Alex Mack. ****ing Thieves.
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