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Old 12-21-2008, 12:04 PM  
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Scott Pioli or Bill Cowher?
For those of you that want to see both hired in KC as GM and HC respectively, I think it highly improbable that you'll get both.

Pioloi is going to want total control of personnel decisions.
Bill Cowher will also.

If Pioli were to be hired, I don't see him hiring Cowher.

So the question is, given a choice, would you prefer Pioli as GM or Cowher as HC?
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:07 PM   #31
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No one is scared to move forward, some just feel that Cowher will be the best HC option available this offseason. Many across the league would agree with that.

You act as if Cowher hasn't won anything. HE WON A SUPERBOWL.

Just because he happens to have ties to the Chiefs doesn't negate that. What makes him a bad candidate, other than your obvious hate for the Chiefs?
What makes him a canidate that I wouldnt like, is he is not a fresh set of eyes.

And yes, just because I wont suck off Cowher, I hate the Chiefs as much as you do.... So how deep is your hate?

By the way, its just an opinion, just like yours.. No need to get your feelings hurt because I dont like Cowher... There are plenty of others that dont want him here either...
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:12 PM   #32
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What makes him a canidate that I wouldnt like, is he is not a fresh set of eyes.

And yes, just because I wont suck off Cowher, I hate the Chiefs as much as you do.... So how deep is your hate?

By the way, its just an opinion, just like yours.. No need to get your feelings hurt because I dont like Cowher... There are plenty of others that dont want him here either...


I don't feel strongly one way or another about it really. If I was forced to make a decision right now, I would say I want Spags, but Cowher would not be a bad choice by any stretch of the imagination, and certainly isn't a lowlife coward like you have called him many times.

I understand that many others don't want him, but your need to throw out ridiculous shit just because you hate all things Chiefs is annoying as hell.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:12 PM   #33
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I'd rather have a young GM with the knowledge to build a winning team than an older HC that's had one.

The Pioli could build a team and stick around a long time, giving us many years of winning tradition. Cowher on the other hand IMO would probably be here 2-5 years and maybe his system works, maybe it doesn't. He's also been to the top and may lack the desire to push again with another team.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:14 PM   #34
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I don't feel strongly one way or another about it really. If I was forced to make a decision right now, I would say I want Spags, but Cowher would not be a bad choice by any stretch of the imagination, and certainly isn't a lowlife coward like you have called him many times.

I understand that many others don't want him, but your need to throw out ridiculous shit just because you hate all things Chiefs is annoying as hell.


Uh okay little man... It will be okay.....
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:15 PM   #35
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I'd rather have a young GM with the knowledge to build a winning team than an older HC that's had one.

The Pioli could build a team and stick around a long time, giving us many years of winning tradition. Cowher on the other hand IMO would probably be here 2-5 years and maybe his system works, maybe it doesn't. He's also been to the top and may lack the desire to push again with another team.
This....
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:22 PM   #36
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What has Pioli done?
BiLL the Gnome has done the coaching and made all the decisions in New England over the years.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:24 PM   #37
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What has Pioli done?
BiLL the Gnome has done the coaching and made all the decisions in New England over the years.
Only thing you can say, he has been with a winning organization, hes young, driven to build his own winner....

And he is a fresh set of eyes for the future...
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:25 PM   #38
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Only thing you can say, he has been with a winning organization, hes young, driven to build his own winner....

And he is a fresh set of eyes for the future...


Didn't win anything until they "stumbled" on Brady. Hasn't proven he can win without him.

That's the argument right?
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Didn't win anything until they "stumbled" on Brady. Hasn't proven he can win without him.

That's the argument right?
Actually dude, I havent figured out your arguement...

Hell I would take Chris Poilan as well... Or Marc Ross...

So its not all about Pioli....
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What has Pioli done?
BiLL the Gnome has done the coaching and made all the decisions in New England over the years.

I'm not necesarily locked on him, but he has at least worked with someone that has enjoyed success, he's had to learn something along the way. I'd rather take a chance on someone that has been in a successful organization than take a chance on someone that's already failed at the job somewhere else.
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Pioli. I don't wanna go back to defensive ball. A "Fresh" start needs "Fresh" perspective.
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I'm not necesarily locked on him, but he has at least worked with someone that has enjoyed success, he's had to learn something along the way. I'd rather take a chance on someone that has been in a successful organization than take a chance on someone that's already failed at the job somewhere else.
Well Cowher has succeeded and failed both. BUT, this is the future and the chance for Clark to make this his franchise....

I just want something fresh and new...
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What has Pioli done?
BiLL the Gnome has done the coaching and made all the decisions in New England over the years.
Pioli is in charge of the scouting, both on the pro and college levels.

He's the guy that pours over all the film and determines the players that Bellichick might want to sign or draft.

Bellichick makes the final decision, but Pioli does all the work when it comes ot player evaluation.
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Pioli. I don't wanna go back to defensive ball. A "Fresh" start needs "Fresh" perspective.
This....
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Pioli is in charge of the scouting, both on the pro and college levels.

He's the guy that pours over all the film and determines the players that Bellichick might want to sign or draft.

Bellichick makes the final decision, but Pioli does all the work when it comes ot player evaluation.
Good post...
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