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[melbar]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I'm not telling you to draft for need I'm telling you it's not smart to overdraft an undervalued position.

If Aaron Curry goes with the 3rd pick he's going to be the highest paid OLB in the game.

Your probably right, but if for some reason P and H dont like either QB who do we draft? One of the 3 or 4 OT's? Orakpo? Who is the next best option is my question.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by melbar

Your probably right, but if for some reason P and H dont like either QB who do we draft? One of the 3 or 4 OT's? Orakpo? Who is the next best option is my question.

Then you take Malcolm Jenkins....

If they take Orakpo I will lose my mind.

[melbar]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Then you take Malcolm Jenkins....

If they take Orakpo I will lose my mind.

No doubt there.

I like Jenkins. I just like Curry better. Just my oppinion, but we have 2 up and coming young corners and even average CB's can look a lot better with a strong front 7. I know that Curry didnt do a lot of pass rushing and we'll have to get more push up front, but we cant solve all of our problems in one pick. Here's why I like Curry IF we dont go QB.

We dont tackle well. Curry is an excellent tackler.
We dont have attitude on D. Curry is a big hitter.
We dont stop the run. Curry plays the gaps well and is stout against the run.
He also had `15 tackles behind the line last year.
We dont have playmakers. He had 3 ints for TD's last year. There's just an
intangeable there to be around the ball and do
something with it.
We are old and get injured a lot at LB. Curry hasnt missed any time in 4 years at college.

Now dont get me wrong on this next statement but, the big dig has been that Curry doesnt have the sack numbers. I would submit this:
Ray Lewis is probably the Best LB in the league and is the heart of a great Defense. Ray hasnt had more than 3.5 sacks since he had 4 in '97.

I'm not saying he's Ray, I'm just saying that you dont have to be the guy getting sacks to have a huge impact on a D. Ray wouldnt be Ray if guys werent putting pressure on the QB up front either, but there are some of the same qualities and i think poor LB play has been the major problem with our D.
Anyway, that is my thought process. Fire away.

[KCUnited]

Most of my friends aren't into football or any sports for that matter, that's primarily why I joined The Planet, so I don't talk much football when I'm out. So last night I meet up with my girlfriend and some of her co-workers and I sit with these 2 self proclaimed biggest Chiefs fans in the city. Both these guys where shitting themselves at the thought of drafting a QB at #3. I got everything from trade for Cassel to move Pollard to LB cuz he brings the wood to we got to fix the right side of the line in rd. 1 to **** Carl for trading JA. I couldn't take it any longer and just zoned it out. I'm thinking there maybe something to this tr00 fan thing. It was like watching 2 short bus kids doing an interpretive dance to The Planet.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This ****ing shit is wearing me out. All this pro-Curry, pro-6th round QB bullshit needs to be put down.

Yeah, because this is an odd year, and you don't have to take best player available. This is the year you get to draft for need at the 3rd overall pick. Nice!

[milkman]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Yeah, because this is an odd year, and you don't have to take best player available. This is the year you get to draft for need at the 3rd overall pick. Nice!

BPA has to account for positional value, especially in the top 5.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by milkman

BPA has to account for positional value, especially in the top 5.

I hear what you and everyone has been saying about that, I do.
But no way am I convinced that Sanchez, playing behind that OL, for one season, can be construed as the best player available at 3.

I hope like hell whomever they draft, QB or not, turns out to be worth it, but Sanchez?

Oh thats right, he played at USC in a pro style offense, done, sign him, championship.

I also get it that the QBOF needs to be on this team soon, very soon.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I hear what you and everyone has been saying about that, I do.
But no way am I convinced that Sanchez, playing behind that OL, for one season, can be construed as the best player available at 3.

I hope like hell whomever they draft, QB or not, turns out to be worth it, but Sanchez?

Oh thats right, he played at USC in a pro style offense, done, sign him, championship.

I also get it that the QBOF needs to be on this team soon, very soon.

Have you seen Sanchez play?

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by milkman

Have you seen Sanchez play?

Just a couple games, and some highlights. Small sample for sure, but I didn't see anything that impressed me that much.

But as you know, I am sure no expert on great play, having spent most of my viewing hours watching the Chiefs.

Do you think he is cool under pressure? To me that is the key, more than measurables.

[Agent V]

Why do I keep hearing the, "First round quarterback isn't a sure thing. We shouldn't risk it" arguement? That's about equal to George Lucas saying, "You know, this Star Wars thing might fail. I probably shouldn't try it."

[CoMoChief]

FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.

Might want to crack open your dictionary and revisit the definition of the word "fact."

[milkman]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

FACT: Other than Stafford, there is no other QB coming out in this draft that is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Other than a LT, no other player I can think of is worth the #3 overall pick.

FACT: Best scenario for the Chiefs right now is to trade down.

When did your dumbass opinion become "fact"?

[ncCHIEFfan]

Anyone who thinks the Chiefs are beyond drafting the best player available has not been watching them play and there is nothing wrong with drating Curry or whom ever is Stafford is gone

[Chiefnj2]

I'd like to know why Stafford was inconsistent with his accuracy. I know he throws off his back foot sometimes, but I have no idea if that is why he at times way overthrew WRs. If it is a coaching/mechanics issue I think Stafford would be the better QB. If it is mental then Sanchez might be the better long term prospect.

Questions with Sanchez - experience, hasn't had to come from behind and is surrounded by lots of talent, seems to get happy feet a little, I think he holds the ball a little low once he starts dancing around, doesn't have a great arm but has better touch than Stafford.

Questions about Stafford - great arm strength but he needs to put better touch on short passes (kind of like Croyle), some accuracy and decision making questions but it's hard to determine if it was him or inexperienced offensive players around him, might not be as good of a leader as Sanchez.