First impressions of the top three quarterbacks

[Tribal Warfare]

First impressions of the top three quarterbacks
Posted by Tom Kowalski | Opinion February 20, 2009 13:18PM

INDIANAPOLIS -- The first thing that struck me about the top three quarterbacks in this draft -- as they each talked to the media today at the NFL Scouting Combine -- was size. Matt Stafford and Mark Sanchez weren't small, but they weren't as big as I thought they might be (apparently, television does add 15 pounds).

Freeman, on the other hand, is huge. At 6-foot-6 and 248 pounds, he looked more like a pass-rushing defensive end. The kid is put together and looks solid.

Stafford really is an impressive guy, but I got the sense a lot of his answers were measured and he was making sure he said all the right things. He kept his answers short and to the point.

Sanchez was much more animated and seemed to enjoy himself the most. Part of that is probably playing under the Hollywood-type attention at USC. Sanchez, before he talked, even joined throng of media interviewing Stafford and gave him a hard time. Interestingly, that's when Stafford seemed to be the most relaxed.

Freeman, who knows he has a lot to prove at this combine, was more serious and made the point that he wants to "let people get an understanding of who Josh Freeman is.''

About the decision to throw at the combine Sunday, Stafford said it was his decision not to throw but he really never gave any good decision as to why. Sanchez, on the other hand, said "it would kill me not to throw.''

And Freeman said repeatedly, "I've got nothing to hide.''

In a couple of months, after the reams of research and miles of tape are analyzed about these three guys, the decision to throw or not to throw won't mean a great deal. But it means something now. Lions coach Jim Schwartz, who echoes the sentiment of a lot of NFL people, said he liked it when an athlete wanted to show the world what he could do.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Your right, I forgot I could see the future, and see we would have drafted those two. Dang.

We told you in 2007 that 2008 draft was loaded with left tackle prospects and no WR's? Wow look what happened.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

LOL, so explain to me what Staley has or hasn't done that makes him not worthy of us drafting him when our OL was falling apart? Can you explain this Mr. NFL scout?

How about this, ass hat:

Left Tackle

1. Ryan Clady (Broncos) 0.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
2. Michael Roos (Titans) 1.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)
3. Tra Thomas (Eagles) 2.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)
3. Orlando Pace (Rams) 2.0 sacks allowed (14 starts)
5. Jake Long (Dolphins) 2.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
6. Jordan Gross (Panthers) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Jammal Brown (Saints) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Jared Gaither (Ravens) 3.0 sacks allowed (15 starts)
6. Marcus McNeill (Chargers) 3.0 sacks allowed (14 starts)
6. Tony Ugoh (Colts) 3.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
6. Chris Samuels (Redskins) 3.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
6. Todd Weiner (Falcons) 3.0 sacks allowed (11 starts)
13. Walter Jones (Seahawks) 3.5 sacks allowed (12 starts)
14. D’Brickashaw Ferguson (Jets) 4.0 sacks allowed (16 starts)14. Bryant McKinnie (Vikings) 4.0 sacks allowed (12 starts)
14. Max Starks (Steelers) 4.0 sacks allowed (11 starts)
17. Joe Thomas (Browns) 4.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
17. Branden Albert (Cheifs) 4.5 sacks allowed (15 starts)
19. Levi Brown (Bengals) 5.5 sacks allowed (11 starts)
20. Mike Gandy (Cardinals) 6.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
21. David Diehl (Giants) 6.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
22. Flozell Adams (Cowboys) 7.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Khalif Barnes (Jags) 7.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Matt Light (Pats) 7.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
23. Chad Clifton (Packers) 7.5 sacks allowed (15 starts)
23. Kwame Harris (Raiders) 7.5 sacks allowed (11 starts)
27. Joe Staley (49ers) 8.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
28. Donald Penn (Bucs) 8.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
29. Jeff Backus (Lions) 9.25 sacks allowed (16 starts)
30. John St. Clair (Bears) 9.75 sacks allowed (16 starts)
31. Duane Brown (Texans) 11.5 sacks allowed (16 starts)
31. Jason Peters (Bills) 11.5 sacks allowed (13 starts)

[LiL stumppy]

So whats worse, him giving up 8 sacks, or Bowe having the second most dropped passes in the NFL?

I am flattered you remember every prospect I wanted to draft, but you both seriously need to step away from your computers and find what normal people call lives. douchebags

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

So whats worse, him giving up 8 sacks, or Bowe having the second most dropped passes in the NFL?

I am flattered you remember every prospect I wanted to draft, but you both seriously need to step away from your computers and find what normal people call lives. douchebags

So, Staley gives up more sacks than every lineman in the NFL save five, and you think that a 1,000 yard receiver who was catching passes from Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard is the problem?

Please, don't ever, ever breed.

[Hammock Parties]

Wasn't Leinart a real likeable guy, too?

Food for thought.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So, Staley gives up more sacks than every lineman in the NFL save five, and you think that a 1,000 yard receiver who was catching passes from Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard is the problem?

Please, don't ever, ever breed.

Uh he thinks Oklahoma runs a pro style offense too...

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If Matt Stafford is available at 3, and we don't take him, I'm ****ing done. Done.

Goose fabba, Hamas. Pioli is in charge now.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by philfree

Here's a take from Pat Kirwan.




http://www.nfl.com/combine/story?id=...s&confirm=true


PhilFree

Lets remember Pat Kirwan worked for the Jets for a long period of time...the Jets are not a team that is remembered for knowing how to handle the draft.

And as someone that watched some of those mentioned QB's that makes me cringe.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

So whats worse, him giving up 8 sacks, or Bowe having the second most dropped passes in the NFL?

I am flattered you remember every prospect I wanted to draft, but you both seriously need to step away from your computers and find what normal people call lives. douchebags

If you're not joking, kill yourself with an AIDS tree.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Lets remember Pat Kirwan worked for the Jets for a long period of time...the Jets are not a team that is remembered for knowing how to handle the draft.

And as someone that watched some of those mentioned QB's that makes me cringe.

I just posted the article to give another perspective. I certainly don't hail Kirwan as anything special.

PhilFree

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Uh he thinks Oklahoma runs a pro style offense too...

They do. I will explain again if you would like.


Also, get a hair cut.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

They do. I will explain again if you would like.


Also, get a hair cut.

Look at this.
Look at how stupid you are.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

So, Staley gives up more sacks than every lineman in the NFL save five, and you think that a 1,000 yard receiver who was catching passes from Tyler Thigpen and Damon Huard is the problem?

Please, don't ever, ever breed.

The person throwing him the ball is the reason he is dropping them? Please. They're both professional athletes for a reason, you act like Thigpen is a mighty mites player who can't throw the ball.

So was I right about Bowe, or wrong about Staley? Take your pick.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Look at this.
Look at how stupid you are.

Unlike traditional spread O's, OU has all 5 linemen with their hands in the dirt. The OL have normal splits, like a pro style offense, and they have many pro-set formations. Their formations are about 50/50, so, they are as much as a pro style offense, as a spread.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

The person throwing him the ball is the reason he is dropping them? Please. They're both professional athletes for a reason, you act like Thigpen is a mighty mites player who can't throw the ball.

So was I right about Bowe, or wrong about Staley? Take your pick.

You were wrong about both. You are batting .000. Rafael Belliard is laughing at your lack of average.

The point with Bowe was that he got a grand in spite of awful QB play, pointing to how good of a player he is. He obviously needs to work on his hands.

But if you put up 32 GMS and told them to pick between Dwayne Bowe and Joe Staley, not only would everyone pick Bowe, no one would give you more than a 3rd or 4th for Staley. He ****ing sucks, end of story, I wanna nail him to the ****ing cross.