Chiefs A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. - Page 3

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 08:22 AM

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I really thought there were just things that were acknowledged as common knowledge, I think Sensible is the only person on this forum that would think Hali can play in the 3-4...

This forum. LOL. I am really worried about going against this forum. Oh no, how could I possibly go against the brilliant minds in here.

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 09:25 AM

Find me one guy in a 3-4 that is remotely similar to Tamba Hali.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-02-2009, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Find me one guy in a 3-4 that is remotely similar to Tamba Hali.

Similar how? How could I simplify it enough that you could comprehend it?

Do you want size? Do you want 40 yard dash times. What 'measurable' will help you to understand.

I understand where your knowlege comes from. It is measurables and how this player or that player compares to a similar player on paper. Fortunately for me, football is played on the field... not paper.

So, tell me... what measurable do you want me to work with?

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 09:29 AM

I just remembered I can't ask you this question because you think Hali is a fluid athletic playmaker.

So I'd probably get some hilarious comparison like Terrell Suggs.

**Reaper16** · 03-02-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Oh no, how could I possibly go against the brilliant minds in here.

Um, you can't?

RINGLEADER · 03-02-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I want Aaron Curry.

But there is no way he solidifies anything.

The Chiefs still need a NT, they still need another outside LB, and they still need another DE like Igor.

Bully.

I will say the good thing about where we are is that the offense should be very close provided we don't start trading away our best players.

RINGLEADER · 03-02-2009, 09:34 AM

BTW, FTR, Hali is a borderline bust irrespective of the system. He might be an OK situational guy when he has a real DE (ala a Jared Allen type) on the opposite side but he is never going to be a Jared Allen type. He reminds me more of Eric Hicks (without the 15 sack season).

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

BTW, FTR, Hali is a borderline bust irrespective of the system. He might be an OK situational guy when he has a real DE (ala a Jared Allen type) on the opposite side but he is never going to be a Jared Allen type. He reminds me more of Eric Hicks (without the 15 sack season).

What are you talkin about man Sensible told me that Cromartie was no better than Hali.

Brock · 03-02-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

So, tell me... what measurable do you want me to work with?

Let's start with slow and out of position.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-02-2009, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....

**DeezNutz** · 03-02-2009, 09:39 AM

And mix in a dash of lackluster athleticism.

beach tribe · 03-02-2009, 09:44 AM

Derrick Johnson does not take on blocks, so what makes you think moving inside will improve his game?

Mecca · 03-02-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Derrick Johnson does not take on blocks, so what makes you think moving inside will improve his game?

Well OLB's in a 3-4 have to beat OT's so he surely isn't gonna be good at that...

beach tribe · 03-02-2009, 09:46 AM

LOL. HOLY SHIT. WE'RE a TOP 10 D NOW??????

BigChiefFan · 03-02-2009, 09:46 AM

Wow. An advocate for drafting a 3-4 MLBer in the top 3 equals epic fail.

03-02-2009, 08:22 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense. Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4. Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well. Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT. Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT. Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in. I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right. DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays. Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page. The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine. Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO. I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up. I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10. He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick. Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....
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03-02-2009, 09:25 AM	#32
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	Find me one guy in a 3-4 that is remotely similar to Tamba Hali.
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03-02-2009, 09:29 AM	#34
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-722950	I just remembered I can't ask you this question because you think Hali is a fluid athletic playmaker. So I'd probably get some hilarious comparison like Terrell Suggs.
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03-02-2009, 09:34 AM	#37
RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8070503	BTW, FTR, Hali is a borderline bust irrespective of the system. He might be an OK situational guy when he has a real DE (ala a Jared Allen type) on the opposite side but he is never going to be a Jared Allen type. He reminds me more of Eric Hicks (without the 15 sack season).
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03-02-2009, 09:44 AM	#42
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	Derrick Johnson does not take on blocks, so what makes you think moving inside will improve his game?
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03-02-2009, 09:46 AM	#44
beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3898036	LOL. HOLY SHIT. WE'RE a TOP 10 D NOW??????
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