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Old 03-14-2009, 01:51 PM   #1
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My thoughts - feel free to chime in with yours.

1 seeds: UNC, UConn, Pitt, Louisville (if they win tonight)
2 seeds: Memphis, Duke, Mich State, OU/KU (winner will get 2 seed and KC pod)
3 seeds: OU/KU, Nova, Wake, Mizzou (if we win tonight)

Wake, Wash, Nova, and UCLA lost, so they'll end up with 3/4/5 seeds.

I think Syracuse could steal Villanova's 3 seed with a win tonight.

Don't think Purdue or Illinois move up into 3 seed territory even if they win Big 10 tourney.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:51 PM   #2
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Let me even rephrase that, Louisville is the only 1 seed to even make it to the FINAL of their tourney. That is probably unheard of. And the #2 and 3 lines aren't much better.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:52 PM   #3
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OU should have zero shot at a #2 seed.

Recent losses, not reg. season champ, not conf. tournament champ...
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:55 PM   #4
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OU should have zero shot at a #2 seed.

Recent losses, not reg. season champ, not conf. tournament champ...
2 of their recent losses were without Griffin. Who knows how much weight the committee will give that aspect.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:58 PM   #5
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2 of their recent losses were without Griffin. Who knows how much weight the committee will give that aspect.
I would have to think that those losses get brushed under the table, but the problem has been that the team's level of play hasn't increased greatly with Griffin's return.

They've just been lackluster of late, which is awful timing. I think they're a 3-4. And if it's a 4, I'd hate to be in that bracket.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:59 PM   #6
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Recent losses, not reg. season champ, not conf. tournament champ...
I think Blake Griffin being gone is understood by the committee. They may well be a two
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KU finished the season with losses to Texas Tech and Baylor. You gotta reward a team that is playing that good at the end of the season.
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Old 03-14-2009, 01:59 PM   #8
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KU finished the season with losses to Texas Tech and Baylor. You gotta reward a team that is playing that good at the end of the season.
You may have noticed several top seeds going down all over the country too. Maybe they'll knock them all down to 3-4-5 seeds so MU can get that 1 seed they so richly deserve.
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You may have noticed several top seeds going down all over the country too. Maybe they'll knock them all down to 3-4-5 seeds so MU can get that 1 seed they so richly deserve.
Usually teams that win move up while teams that lose move down. Pretty complicated.
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Old 03-14-2009, 02:06 PM   #10
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Usually teams that win move up while teams that lose move down. Pretty complicated.
UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
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UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
Don't forget about Pitt. They lost their first game of the Big East tournament. That definitely cancels out their win over Louisville and their two wins over UCONN.
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UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
Eh, it depends. Florida St. isn't an awful team, so I doubt it matters too much. Being a number one seed doesn't mean never losing, especially in a tournament. Let's see what Duke does though...
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UNC lost today. Obviosuly they don't deserve the 1 seeds they win still get. Mich St. lost too... and UConn... those teams should all fall a few notches I guess. It's about a whole season more than just lately. Pretty complicated.
So your saying that those teams losing won't factor into their seeding? A team like Michigan State had a chance at a #1 seed, they won't get it now. UCONN isn't a lock for a #1 seed anymore. NC is still a lock, but that is due to them being NC and already being considered well ahead of the pack. Ty Lawson also did not play today.

Also, how is it reconciled that a highly seeded team that loses its best player near the end of the season will be downgraded, yet a team with a great early season/non-con that is obviously not playing great at the end of season will be given a pass because of their body of work. Why make a predictive seeding due to a lost player but not due to a poor finish?
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KU finished the season with losses to Texas Tech and Baylor. You gotta reward a team that is playing that good at the end of the season.
Ah, an MU fan... probably a grad. It's "that well," but I digress.

Who's undefeated? Tell me! Does every good team need to go 35-0 or they're a failure? We're playing with one junior starter and the rest sophs/freshmen. Watching KU at the start of the season I was hoping we wouldn't be an embarrassment and maybe make the NIT. Yet, here we are.
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Ah, an MU fan... probably a grad. It's "that well," but I digress.

Who's undefeated? Tell me! Does every good team need to go 35-0 or they're a failure? We're playing with one junior starter and the rest sophs/freshmen. Watching KU at the start of the season I was hoping we wouldn't be an embarrassment and maybe make the NIT. Yet, here we are.
But... but... we're all a bunch of assholes for saying anything that could be considered pro KU.
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