McDaniels thinks Cutler is a dumb drunk

[Hammock Parties]

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Source: Secrets Inside Cutler Trade Talks
By Josina Anderson, Fox 31 Denver

Several weeks ago, I called one of my NFL sources for information regarding the free agent market. I received what I expected, and something I didn't: a heads up about a "possible three-way trade in the near future."

I figured my source was talking about a deal outside of Denver; because clearly if they were holding a secret about a grain of salt in the Rocky Mountains my source would have spilled the beans even about that right then and there right?

Nope.

Never in my wildest dreams did I think that vague tip weeks ago was about Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler, head coach Josh McDaniels, and the "Real World" episode airing about them daily on a television set now near you.

Unfortunately, the dots were finally connected for me in our conversation just (yes just) yesterday afternoon.

"Sorry, I'm so sorry Josina. I couldn't tell you at the time. [The secret trade talks] were too high up then. But, when I knew it was about to get out I tried to call you. Unfortunately I didn't have the phone with your number in it right then and there," my source explained pitifully.

Smile.

Clearly my source forgot about this radical invention called 411. You dial it on the phone nearest to you, and ask the operator to connect you to KDVR FOX 31 in Denver.

Lol.

After I finished yanking their chain for a good ten minutes over the phone, my source relented and revealed some rather interesting details about the now infamous Cutler trade that didn't materialize, and, their primary insight about Denver's A-list key players.

The first thing the source wanted to emphasize without hesitation was the fact that McDaniels definitely had his hand in the cookie jar.

Even though McDaniels characterized the Cutler trade talks as just “conversations,” in a recent interview with the NFL Network, and said that, “there wasn’t anything that we were trying to push hard to get through,” my source begged to differ in unbridled amusement.

"[Denver] was definitely negotiating. They were trying to get a trade in place and there is no doubt about that," said the league source.

“From Minnesota to Detroit to Tampa, although they got in the game late, Denver was trying to get something in place.”

As for why McDaniels was so hard pressed to roll Cutler out on the next Rocky Mountain train to “Anywhere but Here-land” my source (with primary knowledge of these conversations) said there were consistent themes in the coach’s concerns about Cutler.

(Again this was relayed to my ears, from their ears. The following is what was heard by my source in these trade whispers, not what FOX31 cites as definite facts about Cutler.)

The source said there are concerns about Cutler’s consumption of alcohol, and “that he’s not that sharp.”

“That scared the crap out of McDaniels,” the source said.

The source expanded their perspective of McDaniels’ concerns of Cutler learning and working in the Broncos’ new offensive scheme.

“This is a very complex situation. You have to be so smart to play his [McDaniels’] offense. [Tom] Brady and [Matt] Cassel are exceedingly smart quarterbacks. They are not the best athletes in the world but they both make really intelligent decisions. Cutler has a canon for an arm, but he doesn’t manage the game like those guys in critical situations. Brady and Cassel are workaholics. They have the stature, and they have the ability,” said the source.

Well everyone can argue about who they feel is the better quarterback between Cutler and Cassel now.

But at the end of the day, when it comes to the root of all of this drama in Denver, the source told FOX31 to point at New England and Kansas City.

“[Bill] Belichick had first round offers and then some for Cassel. Believe me, a lot of people knew that was on the table. But look at what Matt ended up going to Kansas City for nothing. (Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel went to the Chiefs in exchange for a 2009 second round draft pick.) Trust me Bill wanted to pull the trigger on this one sooner rather than later. Then [Scott] Pioli [the Chiefs new General Manager and former Patriots personnel executive] was scared [edit]-less that he wasn’t going to end up with Cassel for a moment there because before he left [New England] Scott was [edit] sure he was going to get Matt-that’s why I feel he took the job in Kansas City. I am convinced it was [Belichick’s and Pioli’s master plan for [Pioli] to get Cassel all along when you watch how this played out.”

As for why Belichick ended up giving the Chiefs and Pioli such a sweetheart deal, the source opined some more.

“At the time all of this was going down, there’s was a part of me that felt like Belichick really wanted to take credit for Cassel. You see, I think if Matt goes to Kansas City, there is a chance he won’t be as good in the Chiefs’ system. Obviously if Cassel ended up in Denver, McDaniels can take more ownership of Matt’s success.”

But the league source told FOX31 sports that in his opinion Belichick took a lesser deal for Cassel in part to disassociate McDaniels’ work in Cassel’s accomplishments.

“I think Bill wants people to know that Brady and Cassel are successes because of his system. You see every other coach that left the Patriots has basically fallen flat on their face.”

As for who McDaniels will scout to replace Cutler if the Pro Bowl quarterback leaves?

“It will definitely have to be somebody who is smart enough to understand the intricacies of his system.”

And if Cutler is smart enough, he’ll make sure he convinces McDaniels he’s the guy not just physically but mentally as well.

“McDaniels has all the leverage he needs because Cutler is under contract, period. If Cutler tries to force his way out of there, plays for another team and performs poorly after all of this drama, his value will tank tremendously. Hopefully he decides to go back, but right now he is looking like an [edit].”

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Cutler is epic Fail.

If he gets traded the Broncos suffer

If he stays the Broncos suffer

what a great offseason!

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Has all the signs of Denver Drunken QB Syndrome appeared?
Tripping over dogs & couches? Falling down team mate's driveways?

[Crush]

A diabetic with a drinking problem?

ULTIMATE DONK FAIL

[kcbubb]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Because dumbasses routinely get excellent grades in high school, go to Vanderbilt, and graduate in four years.

Hamas is correct on this one, except that Cutler was a 5th year senior. He red shirted.

Cutler is no dummy. He's a smart guy. You can't go to Vandy and play football and graduate and be an idiot. It's too hard academically. Vandy doesn't mess around with academics.

[Kyle DeLexus]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Hamas is correct on this one, except that Cutler was a 5th year senior. He red shirted.

Cutler is no dummy. He's a smart guy. You can't go to Vandy and play football and graduate and be an idiot. It's too hard academically. Vandy doesn't mess around with academics.

Neither does KU.....Brandon Rush earned his 4.0

[StcChief]

Originally Posted by Crush

A diabetic with a drinking problem?

ULTIMATE DONK FAIL

NO DOUBT. Talk about two things not to use in the same sentence....

Cutler is a fool.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Eyebrow-Raising Cutler Report Gets Expunged
Posted by Mike Florio on March 25, 2009, 8:50 a.m. EDT

On Tuesday, Josina Anderson of FOX31 in Denver posted a lengthy blurb regarding the situation involving the Broncos and quarterback Jay Cutler.

After an extended introductory portion in which Anderson basically claims that she would have been the one to break the news last month of a possible deal that would have brought Matt Cassel to the Broncos and sent Cutler elsewhere if only Anderson’s source had been able to call her (we’ve learned over the years that no one really cares about why a scoop “almost” was obtained), Anderson got to the meat of her story.

And then, at some point between last night and Wednesday morning, the meat was removed.

The text that was removed from Anderson’s story appears below. Several readers have confirmed that this language indeed appeared in the story, and the quote that we’re pasting below was taken from a cut-and-paste of the original story that as of this posting appears on a Jets Insider forum. (It also appears at this Broncos forum.)

The omitted language is newsworthy only because Anderson posted it, and then without explanation removed it. In reprinting the language, we are not suggesting that the assertions Anderson made are accurate. (In fact, Anderson added a disclaimer to that effect in her original story, explaining that ”[t]he following is what was heard by my source in these trade whispers, not what FOX31 cites as definite facts about Cutler.” Presumably, someone with a law degree concluded that this CYA-style language didn’t “C” enough of FOX31’s “A”.)

Here’s the text that has since been erased:

“The source said there are concerns about Cutler’s consumption of alcohol, and ‘that he’s not that sharp.’

“‘That scared the crap out of McDaniels,’ the source said.”

Frankly, we’ve developed a fairly strong opinion that Cutler is “not that sharp,” especially if reports are true that he asked to be traded before the team tried to trade him, which reportedly offended him even though he had reportedly asked to be traded.

Though we know nothing about whether and to what extent Cutler consumes alcohol, any consumption of alcohol by a Type 1 diabetes patient entails potential health risks. So if that portion of the expunged report is accurate, it would bolster our conclusion that he’s “not that sharp.” (Again, we aren’t reporting that he consumes any amount of alcohol — we’re only pointing out that someone else reported it with a disclaimer as to its accuracy, and then erased the report.)

Regardless, the news here is that a source who supposedly was in position to share with Anderson details about the possible trade of Cutler passed along these intriguing tidbits — and that the intriguing tidbits have since disappeared.

UPDATE: Here’s the cached version of Anderson’s original story. And here’s a photo from the 2006 Bartenders’ Martini Miracle Ball. We’ll assume for now that he’s drinking a Pepsi. And holding a Pepsi.

[Crush]

In that case, Josina Anderson FAIL.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

Hamas is correct on this one, except that Cutler was a 5th year senior. He red shirted.

Cutler is no dummy. He's a smart guy. You can't go to Vandy and play football and graduate and be an idiot. It's too hard academically. Vandy doesn't mess around with academics.

I don’t care where he went to school a diabetic with a drinking problem is a fool.

[veist]

As has been mentioned millions of times before don't ignore the money, the Pats have a ton of FAs in house next year that they presumably may want to keep some of. Trading Vrabel keeps him out of the division unlike cutting him and clears cap room. Our willingness to take Cassel sans a new deal as a condition of the trade also had to make it very appealing because it cleared him from the books and no worries about contract negotiations. And an early 2nd like that is probably going to net you someone you had targeted as a possible selection in the late 1st with a considerably smaller contract, again good for a team with lots of FAs of its own to pay.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Not going to say you are wrong... but this guy was a star QB..... maybe, just maybe, he got a few 'breaks' along the way.

I will say, that I thought this was a poorly written piece and that the 'source' did not come off as credible to me.

And, Cutler may be very smart, I am just pointing out that often.... athletes.... especially star athletes that are well liked..... get special treatment.

Alabama, Florida, USC etc. might give their athletes breaks on academics whenever they can.
Vanderbilt, Darthmouth, Brown etc. require their athletes to perform at the same academic level as non-athletes. Thus the fact they field teams that can't compete with the traditional powers.

As to this "article": please. Whose teenage daughter wrote this thing?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

I don’t care where he went to school a diabetic with a drinking problem is a fool.

If you are basing your belief that Cutler has a drinking problem on the "article" in this thread you may want to seek a second source.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by cutler7624

UPDATE: Here’s the cached version of Anderson’s original story. And here’s a photo from the 2006 Bartenders’ Martini Miracle Ball. We’ll assume for now that he’s drinking a Pepsi. And holding a Pepsi.

He was diagnosed in 2007 with type 1. So this picture in th eOP was from 06. The effing media.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by Crush

A diabetic with a drinking problem?

ULTIMATE DONK FAIL

Yes.

One of my best friends was diagnosed with diabetes last year. He wasn't a problem drinker by any means, but he did drink (primarily good scotch). Stopped cold after he was diagnosed and won't touch a drop now. Drinking is one of the worst things a diabetic can do.

If this drinking thing is true, this clown is doomed. It's only a matter of time before everything catches up to him. Any GM that trades anything for him would be insane.

[Radar Chief]

Originally Posted by vailpass

If you are basing your belief that Cutler has a drinking problem on the "article" in this thread you may want to seek a second source.

Originally Posted by vailpass

As to this "article": please. Whose teenage daughter wrote this thing?

We agree on the quality of the article.

Originally Posted by Radar Chief

Yea but it’s dishing dirt on a rival so I read it to the end even if it read like a text message from a 14 y.o. girl.

As for his drinking problem, I’m relying more on posted pictures:

Originally Posted by Claythan

And the personal account of a fellow CP’er.

Originally Posted by SBK

I have a friend that lives in Denver and has drank with Cutler a few times. Says he's a major douche and an alcoholic.

I think we can all see he's a douche.

Ok, friend of a friend then.

It’s reasonable to believe that whatever the frequency and volume of his drinking that it’s not unordinary when compared to other 25 y.o. millionaires, but when you throw diabetes into the mix any drinking can be considered excessive.