Chiefs What were your impressions of the game? - Page 3

Tom_A_Hawk · 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Agreed. But saying it didn't make progress is ridiculous.

well, if you are going to get that technical.....LJ from 2.6 ypc to 2.9 ...progress indeed

Tom_A_Hawk · 10-05-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The game wasn't on in my market yesterday and radio coverage was spotty all day, so I only heard portions of the game.

Who played well? Who didn't? Were there any surprises?

For example, it sounded to me like maybe Big Irish at RT was what most of us expected - a little better at run blocking, a little worse at pass blocking.

Give me your take.

in a nutshell, nothing good about yesterday's game.....

Tiger's Fan · 10-05-2009, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_A_Hawk

in a nutshell, nothing good about yesterday's game.....

Nice take. Perhaps tennis of golf is more your speed.

Giants averaged 4.7 yards per carry.

Chiefs averaged 4.2 yards per carry.

Let the spinnin wheel spin baby!

Chiefnj2 · 10-05-2009, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Buster Hymen

Nice take. Perhaps tennis of golf is more your speed.

Giants averaged 4.7 yards per carry.

Chiefs averaged 4.2 yards per carry.

Let the spinnin wheel spin baby!

Take out Cassel's scrambling and what did the RB's average? LJ averaged 2.9 ypc.

Coogs · 10-05-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Take out Cassel's scrambling and what did the RB's average? LJ averaged 2.9 ypc.

There is also a 24 yard carry by Charles on the last play of the game that really inflates the rushing average as well. Take out that 24 yard run AND Cassels scrambling yardage, and our rushing game is pretty modest at best.

**ChiTown** · 10-05-2009, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

There is also a 24 yard carry by Charles on the last play of the game that really inflates the rushing average as well. Take out that 24 yard run AND Cassels scrambling yardage, and our rushing game still blows chunks

fyp

LaChapelle · 10-05-2009, 10:26 AM

Haley's got a hammer and a chisel trying to take down a different concrete wall every week. He'll try this and that with little success. Eventually they'll get something that'll work or a weaker wall to work against. He's learning what works and what doesn't.

**Gonzo** · 10-05-2009, 10:29 AM

This is my impression...

wild1 · 10-05-2009, 10:36 AM

The good: Flowers and Carr were good considering the circumstances. I think Dorsey continues to improve week by week. Vrabel and Hali had a decent game. Definite upgrade at right tackle.

The bad: Our safeties are terrible. Run defense borders on terrible. Team has an aptitude to screw something up at the worst time. Offense is amazing in its ability to not get anything right. Defenses just take away Bowe and they've solved it all. Larry Johnson is looking old. Waters IMO is not what he used to be. Cassel was not great, but passable, especially considering he has little weapons and little chance to get into any rhythm

wild1 · 10-05-2009, 10:46 AM

Well if the line sucks and the running back sucks you aren't going to have much of a running game. Duh, ok.

**The Franchise** · 10-05-2009, 10:54 AM

I didn't watch the game.

How did O'Callaghan do? Is he at least holding up the RT position?

**Buehler445** · 10-05-2009, 10:55 AM

There were some good things. Most notably we did not get completely obliterated by Jacobs, which I fully expected. If you stack up the run defense from yesterday and compare it to Carolina and Tennessee from last year, major improvement. Jacobs got his and we gave up some, but given how NYG runs on everyone, I was pleased.

Got pressure occasionally, but nothing to affect a series. Coverage had some really nice bright spots, but Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE **** OPEN. Not making contested or difficult catches, WIDE THE **** OPEN. I have no clue what was going on. Our safeties blow. Boss hurt us some, but not as bad as I thought he would. It could be that our LBs are better in coverage than we anticipated or they didn't look his way because Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE **** OPEN.

Cassel played like ass. He got hit a lot and was always under pressure. Always. I only remember one time where he got protection (on a 3 step drop) and threw a perfect ball. He overthrew DBowe twice. It looked like Bowe wasn't full speed. Wade biffed a WR screen. None of the WRs did...anything.

Albert had a false start. Lots of missed assignments. Lots of getting blown off the ball. Lots of running draw plays, where instead of a hole, there were 2 LBs sprinting into the backfield. Lots of plays where the dude lined up over guard would step through the hole and hit Cassel/LJ right after the handoff. Just horrid line play. Horrid.

Officiating was really really bad. All over the place. Unacceptably bad.

Chiefs players were chippy. Lots of scuffles. Tyler got a personal foul penalty for ****ing with Bradshaw (who also got an offsetting penalty and was running his mouth all ****ing day), when given the opportunity, the D would lay some lumber, Vrable was in the face of the officials (rightfully so) quite a bit. For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years.
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soundmind · 10-05-2009, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Officiating was really really bad. All over the place. Unacceptably bad.

Chiefs players were chippy. Lots of scuffles. Tyler got a personal foul penalty for ****ing with Bradshaw (who also got an offsetting penalty and was running his mouth all ****ing day), when given the opportunity, the D would lay some lumber, Vrable was in the face of the officials (rightfully so) quite a bit. For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years.
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That's about what I saw. Officiating was atrocious and transparent. If the Giants are on the WWE.....I mean, the NFL's "Win Sheet" for the week, then why play the game? I'm not saying the officials wrote this one in for us, we didn't play well, but there were a bevy of horrid calls. Balls being spotted 1.5 yards short, non-calls on the NYG OL for blatant holding/tackling, and the Page penalty was indeed crap.

Fish · 10-05-2009, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

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For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years.
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That's a good point. Most of the players are playing hard, despite the suckage. That's one thing that did impress me about this game.

And dude... that's a lot to write on your mobile device...

eazyb81 · 10-05-2009, 11:10 AM

1. Cassel is much worse than I expected he would be.

2. We are, without a doubt, the worst team in the league.

3. We are worse than at any point during the Herm era.

10-05-2009, 10:26 AM	#7
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Haley's got a hammer and a chisel trying to take down a different concrete wall every week. He'll try this and that with little success. Eventually they'll get something that'll work or a weaker wall to work against. He's learning what works and what doesn't.
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10-05-2009, 10:36 AM	#9
wild1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 31040 Casino cash: $10004900	The good: Flowers and Carr were good considering the circumstances. I think Dorsey continues to improve week by week. Vrabel and Hali had a decent game. Definite upgrade at right tackle. The bad: Our safeties are terrible. Run defense borders on terrible. Team has an aptitude to screw something up at the worst time. Offense is amazing in its ability to not get anything right. Defenses just take away Bowe and they've solved it all. Larry Johnson is looking old. Waters IMO is not what he used to be. Cassel was not great, but passable, especially considering he has little weapons and little chance to get into any rhythm
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10-05-2009, 10:46 AM	#10
wild1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: 31040 Casino cash: $10004900	Well if the line sucks and the running back sucks you aren't going to have much of a running game. Duh, ok.
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10-05-2009, 10:54 AM	#11
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	I didn't watch the game. How did O'Callaghan do? Is he at least holding up the RT position?
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10-05-2009, 10:55 AM	#12
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1575266	There were some good things. Most notably we did not get completely obliterated by Jacobs, which I fully expected. If you stack up the run defense from yesterday and compare it to Carolina and Tennessee from last year, major improvement. Jacobs got his and we gave up some, but given how NYG runs on everyone, I was pleased. Got pressure occasionally, but nothing to affect a series. Coverage had some really nice bright spots, but Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE ** OPEN. Not making contested or difficult catches, WIDE THE OPEN. I have no clue what was going on. Our safeties blow. Boss hurt us some, but not as bad as I thought he would. It could be that our LBs are better in coverage than we anticipated or they didn't look his way because Steve Smith was typically WIDE THE OPEN. Cassel played like ass. He got hit a lot and was always under pressure. Always. I only remember one time where he got protection (on a 3 step drop) and threw a perfect ball. He overthrew DBowe twice. It looked like Bowe wasn't full speed. Wade biffed a WR screen. None of the WRs did...anything. Albert had a false start. Lots of missed assignments. Lots of getting blown off the ball. Lots of running draw plays, where instead of a hole, there were 2 LBs sprinting into the backfield. Lots of plays where the dude lined up over guard would step through the hole and hit Cassel/LJ right after the handoff. Just horrid line play. Horrid. Officiating was really really bad. All over the place. Unacceptably bad. Chiefs players were chippy. Lots of scuffles. Tyler got a personal foul penalty for ing with Bradshaw (who also got an offsetting penalty and was running his mouth all *ing day), when given the opportunity, the D would lay some lumber, Vrable was in the face of the officials (rightfully so) quite a bit. For a team that sucks ass, they are certainly more spirited than anything we've seen here in several years. Posted via Mobile Device*
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10-05-2009, 11:10 AM	#15
eazyb81 The Illuminati Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: the road less traveled Casino cash: $9984900	1. Cassel is much worse than I expected he would be. 2. We are, without a doubt, the worst team in the league. 3. We are worse than at any point during the Herm era.
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