Chiefs TEICHER: Chiefs have some tough personnel decisions to make - Page 3

Chris Meck · 01-13-2011, 10:44 AM

You can't just let half of your team walk. Then you'd literally have to have 22 guys off the street.

I'd think Gilberry would like a chance to start somewhere as a 4-3 RDE, and he's probably got a good shot at it. So he won't likely be back.

Wiegmann needs replacing badly. But right now, we've got nothing at C. Bring him back, but get a young FA or draft a good one for Casey to help coach up.

Smith and Edwards should be brought back, but a true, NFL ready NT must be brought in. Edwards is too small, and Smith is a 'tweener in a 3-4.

Keep Carr, he made big strides.

Just off the top of my head.

**Rain Man** · 01-13-2011, 10:49 AM

I don't understand the questions that arise related to a player's age. With Wiegman and Vrabel, you say "Do we have someone better on the roster?" If yes, then they get demoted or let go. If no, you keep them because they're the best player available. Age shouldn't be a factor.

booger · 01-13-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I don't understand the questions that arise related to a player's age. With Wiegman and Vrabel, you say "Do we have someone better on the roster?" If yes, then they get demoted or let go. If no, you keep them because they're the best player available. Age shouldn't be a factor.

I agree but my main issue with Vrabel is i think he's declined too far. For leadership purposes maybe he could contribute as a backup OLB/Situational guy plus add depth at TE in short Yardage and Goaline. A role player like that better play special teams and i don't see Vrabel covering kicks. So in the age of the 45 man game day roster and the overall 53 he isn't going to fit many places.

Weigmann had a good year, stayed healthy, and drew plenty of praise from Haley's end of the season presser. What was my main concern before the season started and now that it has ended is how the OL would play with him at 285(probably lighter) and lilja at 290 playing side by side. I don't think this OL, and Cassel can go through another year of that. I wouldn't be suprised to see Weigmann keep playing, just a matter if it's here or not.

McGraw has lost some foot speed too(not his best skill to begin with) and usually misses 2-4 games a year in his KC career. His range isn't good enough for FS and I don't think he could hold up at SS. As a 3rd Safety and Nickel package guy maybe he has another year. But again it comes back to special teams and he was a good one in the past but i didn't notice him this year. If not a starter or playing high number of snaps as a backup these guys don't fit.

As far as declining skills you can throw Chambers in that catagory too, imo.

Chiefnj2 · 01-13-2011, 11:16 AM

Must Keep: Hali.

Should keep: Carr and Gilberry.

One or the other until you draft and develop someone: Weigman/Niswanger (preferably Weigman), and Edwards/Smith (preferably Smith).

RINGLEADER · 01-13-2011, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Must Keep: Hali.

Should keep: Carr and Gilberry.

One or the other until you draft and develop someone: Weigman/Niswanger (preferably Weigman), and Edwards/Smith (preferably Smith).

Yeah, I could go with this one...

**Dave Lane** · 01-13-2011, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Must Keep: Hali.

Should keep: Carr and Gilberry.

One or the other until you draft and develop someone: Weigman/Niswanger (preferably Weigman), and Edwards/Smith (preferably Smith).

This is pretty much my list. Others if they sign reasonable deals. If we have a season hopefully some of the other signees get knocked out by new pickups / draft choices.

**buddha** · 01-13-2011, 11:19 AM

Croyle should be cut loose. Palkow showed more in limited time, and it's time to look elsewhere for the QBoftheF. Smith and Edwards are keepers. They may not be great, but they are at least average...maybe a bit better than that. It's hard to find good interior DL. You don't give up on two young ones who played pretty well. Hali should be brought back if the price is right, but I wouldn't over pay. Vrable was WAY too slow this season to play his position. Leadership or not, he needs to hang 'em up. Carr is a keeper.

The Chiefs need LBers in the worst way. Our LBer prospect for the future is Andy Freaking Studdebaker? Really? That's sad.

WR and LB should be the Chiefs priority during the off season.

boogblaster · 01-13-2011, 11:31 AM

We need a serious QB back-up ... plus a new young QB too learn our system .......

Halfcan · 01-13-2011, 12:23 PM

How could they let Hali become a F A?

Some team will offer him a big contract.

TEX · 01-13-2011, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

How could they let Hali become a F A?

Some team will offer him a big contract.

And the Chiefs should match it. They have the $$$. Hali does NOT strike me as the type of player whose production will fall after he signs a big contract.

suzzer99 · 01-13-2011, 12:25 PM

If this team lets Hali go I will lose a lot of faith in Pioli. I'd be shocked if that happened.

Halfcan · 01-13-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

If this team lets Hali go I will lose a lot of faith in Pioli. I'd be shocked if that happened.

Like when they gave away Jared Allen and Tony G??

**The Bad Guy** · 01-13-2011, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Like when they gave away Jared Allen and Tony G??

Gave away Allen?

Hardly.

I'd make that deal again.

Brock · 01-13-2011, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Like when they gave away Jared Allen and Tony G??

milkman · 01-13-2011, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jethopper

keep tamba, cut the rest loose.

01-13-2011, 10:44 AM	#1
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $-1365090	You can't just let half of your team walk. Then you'd literally have to have 22 guys off the street. I'd think Gilberry would like a chance to start somewhere as a 4-3 RDE, and he's probably got a good shot at it. So he won't likely be back. Wiegmann needs replacing badly. But right now, we've got nothing at C. Bring him back, but get a young FA or draft a good one for Casey to help coach up. Smith and Edwards should be brought back, but a true, NFL ready NT must be brought in. Edwards is too small, and Smith is a 'tweener in a 3-4. Keep Carr, he made big strides. Just off the top of my head.
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01-13-2011, 10:49 AM	#2
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-672449 VARSITY	I don't understand the questions that arise related to a player's age. With Wiegman and Vrabel, you say "Do we have someone better on the roster?" If yes, then they get demoted or let go. If no, you keep them because they're the best player available. Age shouldn't be a factor. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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01-13-2011, 11:16 AM	#4
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	Must Keep: Hali. Should keep: Carr and Gilberry. One or the other until you draft and develop someone: Weigman/Niswanger (preferably Weigman), and Edwards/Smith (preferably Smith). __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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01-13-2011, 11:19 AM	#7
buddha You may think you know... Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: California Casino cash: $10006184	Croyle should be cut loose. Palkow showed more in limited time, and it's time to look elsewhere for the QBoftheF. Smith and Edwards are keepers. They may not be great, but they are at least average...maybe a bit better than that. It's hard to find good interior DL. You don't give up on two young ones who played pretty well. Hali should be brought back if the price is right, but I wouldn't over pay. Vrable was WAY too slow this season to play his position. Leadership or not, he needs to hang 'em up. Carr is a keeper. The Chiefs need LBers in the worst way. Our LBer prospect for the future is Andy Freaking Studdebaker? Really? That's sad. WR and LB should be the Chiefs priority during the off season.
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01-13-2011, 11:31 AM	#8
boogblaster MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Verdigris Valley Campsite Casino cash: $10004900	We need a serious QB back-up ... plus a new young QB too learn our system ....... __________________ WR or S please
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Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	How could they let Hali become a F A? Some team will offer him a big contract.
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