Football The "White" Mike Vick - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 08-25-2011, 03:01 PM

WTF was ESPN thinking??

Didnt they fire Limbaugh over this sort of crap 7 or 8 years ago?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl-wp5866

ESPN is under fire Thursday for creating and publishing the Photoshopped image above of Michael Vick(notes) with a white face to accompany a column in ESPN The Magazine entitled "What if Michael Vick were white?"

After immediate backlash to the image, which was also posted on ESPN's website, editors replaced the online picture with a regular photograph of Vick. The website then reversed course and, as of 2:30 p.m. ET on Thursday, had restored the original, controversial image to the top of the online story.

The picture and headline accompany a thoughtful piece by noted cultural critic Toure on how Vick's race has shaped both the positive and negative aspects of his life. The author dismisses the hypothetical question posed in the article's title saying that changing Vick's race would be to fundamentally change the athlete so much as to render him unknowable.

I mean, who would this white Vick be? [...] When you alter his race, it's like those Back to the Future movies where someone goes back in time, inadvertently changes one small thing about his parents' dating history and then the person starts to disappear. If Vick had been born to white parents, you wouldn't even be reading this right now. That Vick would have had radically different options in life compared with the Vick who grew up in the projects of Newport News, Va., where many young black men see sports as the only way out.

On his Twitter account, Toure said he asked editors not to use "What if Michael Vick were white?" as the title to the article. He later said he wasn't consulted about the image choice. "Judge me on the story," he wrote, "not the art."

If you ever wonder why it's difficult to have intelligent, measured discussions about race in this country, look no further than the picture above. A fine author writes a thought-provoking piece about how the color of your skin has some bearing on the person you become. It molds you like a number of other factors like upbringing, class and parenting. He goes beyond the usual platitudes that we throw into racial discussions so as not to seem insensitive or trite. And all of that is ignored because of a race-baiting headline and a cheap Photoshop job.

beach tribe · 08-25-2011, 05:49 PM

These issues will never go away as long as Million dollar athletes are portrayed as being victims of their own race.
What if Mike Vick were white? He'd still be a dog Murderer with no SB rings.

Brock · 08-25-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Negreppedson

Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

Where's the backlash? Nobody even gives a shit about it anymore.

Deberg_1990 · 08-25-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

BS...if it would have been Brady, Favre or Manning (His equals as far as press and pub) it would have been the same.

beach tribe · 08-25-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Negreppedson

Prison yes. Extreme level of backlash from society? Not a chance

So if a white person electrocuted dog's to death America would have been cool with it?
Listen dude, the reason you can't get any other job than at McDonald's, has nothing to do with you being black.

Bambi · 08-25-2011, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Where's the backlash? Nobody even gives a shit about it anymore.

True, its been a few years now.

At the time I definitely felt there was a bit of piling on due to his race.

Dog fighting has been going on in England and Ireland for like 100 years, you've never heard the same rate of anger about those people as you did when Vick was busted.

Brock · 08-25-2011, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

True, its been a few years now.

At the time I definitely felt there was a bit of piling on due to his race.

Dog fighting has been going on in England and Ireland for like 100 years, you've never heard the same rate of anger about those people as you did when Vick was busted.

It wasn't dog "fighting" that most people got angry about.

**kysirsoze** · 08-25-2011, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Im just tired of this obsession with race the media has. I personally dont give a crap what color he is, and i dont know anyone who sits around thinking "What if Vick were White?" so who are they writing for?

Stop writing this nonsense media.

Your point is actually one main point of the article. The author hated both the title and the picture ESPN gave it.

Bambi · 08-25-2011, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

BS...if it would have been Brady, Favre or Manning (His equals as far as press and pub) it would have been the same.

I think you've found the point of the article.

**kysirsoze** · 08-25-2011, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

I think you've found the point of the article.

You clearly didn't read it.

**CrazyPhuD** · 08-25-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

That depends.....is he dark meat or light meat?

Bambi · 08-25-2011, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

You clearly didn't read it.

Haha, sure I did.

I just didn't say I agreed with the author.

Vick was brought up around some scary people. That doesn't mean the backlash from everyday society would have been the same had it been a white QB.

Just my opinion. No biggie

Valiant · 08-25-2011, 06:35 PM

He looks like Jesus.. So everyone but his own team would hate him.. So basically no different..

**kysirsoze** · 08-25-2011, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Negreppedson

Haha, sure I did.

I just didn't say I agreed with the author.

Vick was brought up around some scary people. That doesn't mean the backlash from everyday society would have been the same had it been a white QB.

Just my opinion. No biggie

No, the point of the article is that question is worthless. It is an oversimplification and doesn't achieve anything by being asked or discussed because of how many other factors go into the situation. It wasn't excusing Vick's actions because of his background as your post suggests.

**Predarat** · 08-25-2011, 07:19 PM

evenfall · 08-25-2011, 07:25 PM

If you really want to draw this out to the end, if Vick were white he wouldn't have the foot speed or the same type of athleticism as he has, and would not have had the same career.

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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $24454	The "White" Mike Vick WTF was ESPN thinking?? Didnt they fire Limbaugh over this sort of crap 7 or 8 years ago? http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shu...urn=nfl-wp5866 ESPN is under fire Thursday for creating and publishing the Photoshopped image above of Michael Vick(notes) with a white face to accompany a column in ESPN The Magazine entitled "What if Michael Vick were white?" After immediate backlash to the image, which was also posted on ESPN's website, editors replaced the online picture with a regular photograph of Vick. The website then reversed course and, as of 2:30 p.m. ET on Thursday, had restored the original, controversial image to the top of the online story. The picture and headline accompany a thoughtful piece by noted cultural critic Toure on how Vick's race has shaped both the positive and negative aspects of his life. The author dismisses the hypothetical question posed in the article's title saying that changing Vick's race would be to fundamentally change the athlete so much as to render him unknowable. I mean, who would this white Vick be? [...] When you alter his race, it's like those Back to the Future movies where someone goes back in time, inadvertently changes one small thing about his parents' dating history and then the person starts to disappear. If Vick had been born to white parents, you wouldn't even be reading this right now. That Vick would have had radically different options in life compared with the Vick who grew up in the projects of Newport News, Va., where many young black men see sports as the only way out. On his Twitter account, Toure said he asked editors not to use "What if Michael Vick were white?" as the title to the article. He later said he wasn't consulted about the image choice. "Judge me on the story," he wrote, "not the art." If you ever wonder why it's difficult to have intelligent, measured discussions about race in this country, look no further than the picture above. A fine author writes a thought-provoking piece about how the color of your skin has some bearing on the person you become. It molds you like a number of other factors like upbringing, class and parenting. He goes beyond the usual platitudes that we throw into racial discussions so as not to seem insensitive or trite. And all of that is ignored because of a race-baiting headline and a cheap Photoshop job. Attached Thumbnails
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