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Old 04-24-2015, 11:16 AM  
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Dorsey-"there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft"
@TerezPaylor: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey says there are 10-12 impact players in this draft.

Looks like a trade down is coming. Can you guess the 12 players?
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:20 PM   #31
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:20 PM   #32
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You guys realize that everyone is lying right now, right?
I don't think Jeremiah is lying.

He might be wrong but he's not lying.


I've heard several professional draftniks say a similar thing ... 12-ish impact players on paper.

Now every year there are at least a dozen impact players that aren't even listed in the 1st round.
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:21 PM   #33
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There are 12 impact players and we have 11 picks. I don't see the problem.
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:33 PM   #34
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I don't think Jeremiah is lying.

He might be wrong but he's not lying.


I've heard several professional draftniks say a similar thing ... 12-ish impact players on paper.

Now every year there are at least a dozen impact players that aren't even listed in the 1st round.
I don't get the point of evening saying something like that (Jeremiah). There are gong to be later round guys that make an impact. There will be first round guys that bust.
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:42 PM   #35
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Players who can come in and have an immediate impact on the game

That number is probably right, good thing for us some teams drafting ahead of us probably don't count the impact players correctly
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:42 PM   #36
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:45 PM   #37
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I think this is true of every draft.

There are 10-12 guys that can start from game one and have an immediate impact. Sometimes, it's players taken high and some times it's guys in the second, third, fourth or even undrafted.

The issue is and has always been the same: Identify, scout, draft and develop talent for your system, only.
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Old 04-24-2015, 12:54 PM   #38
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So then we're trading up
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:08 PM   #41
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If your GM feels that there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft, shouldn't he be trying to move up and grab one rather than move back and get a guy he doesn't believe is an impact player?
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:14 PM   #42
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LOl good ol chiefs. We cant draft for shit so lets put out the we need to trade down card. Who cares right Clark? As long as tickets keep being sold.
Thats funny. Every player in your sig was drafted by the Chiefs over the years.
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:16 PM   #43
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Or trading down.
Or staying put.



Throwout Winston and Mariota. Will both might start immediately, neither will be a big time immediate impact player. I seriously doubt that Leonard Williams or Danny Shelton will be immediate impact players. Defensive line is generally the most difficult position for a rookie.

Dante Fowler? Bud Dupree? Shane Ray? Vic Beasley? Hard to say but doubtful. If any of those guys got six sacks, I'd consider that a big year for a rookie on bad teams without an opposing pass rusher. Randy Gregory? If he falls far enough, maybe. If he goes to the Ravens, Steelers or Patriots, he could have a very good rookie season.

Running back? Blech. Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley might have 1,000 yard seasons but who cares? It's a devalued position. Offensive line? Is there such a thing as an "impact" offensive lineman? Scherf, Ereck Flowers, La'el Collins, Cameron Erving and D.J. Humphries will likely all start immediately but does that mean that they'll be immediate shutdown players? Highly unlikely.

So that leaves the cornerbacks and wide receivers. Cooper, White, Parker, Agholor, Dorsett, Smith, maybe Waynes, Johnson, Peters or Maxx Williams?

I think there's good reason for the Chiefs to stay at #18.
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Old 04-24-2015, 01:19 PM   #45
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There aren't too many players I'd want to trade up for in the second. Marcus peters, then clemmings or Gregory if they fell that far. What I would really love to see is the raiders pass on cooper and then for us to trade up to 8-9 to take him.
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