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Old 04-05-2016, 11:43 AM   #1
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Update: another CB coming in for a visit.

Terez Paylor@TerezPaylor-CB Elie Bouka will visit the Arizona Cardinals this weekend. Hearing #Chiefs will likely work him out later this month or in early May.
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:06 PM   #2
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At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:10 PM   #3
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At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.
Butler can probably play anywhere on the line ala Howard, so he'd provide depth and versatility. He also has the ability to play inside in our sub packages and give us an interior pass rush boost.

Poe is a free agent next year, Howard the following year, and then Bailey the year after that. Taking advantage of one of the best DL classes available would be a smart choice if the top corners are gone.
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:26 PM   #4
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Butler can probably play anywhere on the line ala Howard, so he'd provide depth and versatility. He also has the ability to play inside in our sub packages and give us an interior pass rush boost.

Poe is a free agent next year, Howard the following year, and then Bailey the year after that. Taking advantage of one of the best DL classes available would be a smart choice if the top corners are gone.
I feel like Dorsey has done pretty well at finding that Howard prototype with his later picks and waiver wire pickups. He probably can find more of those type of guys if he needed to for versatility and depth, but Nkemdiche is a great talent that could really help out the defense in a spot that didnt have a whole lot of production from Devito these past few years from a pass rush standpoint.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:41 PM   #5
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At 6'4 and 320 he's a huge dude who's pretty locked in at NT to me. So does he play over Poe or Howard? Does Poe move to DE? I just don't think that would be in the best interest of the team to use the 1st round pick on a player that day 1 would be the 3rd string player at that position.

If you are thinking we'd just bump out Poe or Jaye to Devito's spot, why mess with anything that was already working and just draft Devitio's replacement in someone like Nkemdiche? I want an impact player day 1, and if we're going the DL route, I'd rather pick the guy who would actually start.

Also would make sense why Dorsey was at the Ole Miss Pro day and there hasn't been any talk on Devito lately.
How bout using him to spell Poe. A rotation at NT would be good.
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Old 04-05-2016, 12:20 PM   #6
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:39 PM   #7
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Damn, if we draft Butler we are guaranteed at least two butt fumbles a year by Sanchez.
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:25 PM   #8
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Player Team Position Total Snaps Off Snaps Off Snap Pct Def Snaps Def Snap Pct ST Snaps ST Snap Pct
70-M.Devito KC DL 333 0 0.0% 293 26.9% 40 9.0%
92-D.Poe KC DL 806 1 0.1% 759 69.8% 46 10.3%
93-D.King KC DL 5 0 0.0% 0 0.0% 5 1.1%
96-J.Howard KC DL 801 0 0.0% 752 69.1% 49 11.0%
97-A.Bailey KC DL 624 0 0.0% 582 53.5% 42 9.4%
98-N.Williams KC DL 195 0 0.0% 182 16.7% 13 2.9%
99-R.Nunez-Roches KC DL 47 0 0.0% 22 2.0% 25 5.6%
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:31 PM   #9
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With Poe and Howard BOTH taking damn near 70% of the defensive snaps, we need a better defensive rotation to keep the guys fresh in the fourth quarter and the hopeful playoff run. If Butler's there, I'd have a hard time passing on him if I were GM. Obviously, CB is a bigger CURRENT team need. However, Poe could be a problem next year if he demands JJ Watt money. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:37 PM   #10
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With Poe and Howard BOTH taking damn near 70% of the defensive snaps, we need a better defensive rotation to keep the guys fresk in the fourth quarter and the hopeful playoff run. If Butler's there, I'd have a hard time passing on him if I were GM. Obviously, CB is a bigger CURRENT team need. However, Poe could be a problem next year if he demands JJ Watt money. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
The good thing is there will be a damn good DL available in the 2nd with this years class being so deep. If one of the top corners is there you go that direction in the 1st, then take the best DL available in the 2nd.

If Jackson, Apple, and Alexander are all gone, there will probably be a stud DL available like Nkemdiche, Buter, Jones, or Robison.
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:44 PM   #11
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Old 04-05-2016, 06:54 PM   #12
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Jarraud Powers must be asking for a lot of money.
I frankly will be shocked if the Chiefs do not add another corner in free agency. This may happen after the draft, but no doubt there is a waiting game going on with the current tier of free agents. There are a few experienced options who could add depth or be stop-gaps in a pinch.

Cromartie, Hall, Powers and even Finnegan might have some value on short term, cheaper deals to name a few.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:54 AM   #13
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I frankly will be shocked if the Chiefs do not add another corner in free agency. This may happen after the draft, but no doubt there is a waiting game going on with the current tier of free agents. There are a few experienced options who could add depth or be stop-gaps in a pinch.

Cromartie, Hall, Powers and even Finnegan might have some value on short term, cheaper deals to name a few.
Considering that Smith has NB experience....I wouldn't doubt it if they draft a CB and call it good.
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Considering that Smith has NB experience....I wouldn't doubt it if they draft a CB and call it good.
Smith?

You mean Jimmy Wilson?
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Smith?

You mean Jimmy Wilson?
Yep that's what I meant.
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