Terez Paylor article on Dee Ford

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by RunKC

This is what I've been seeing. Dee has had very few opportunities to actually rush the passer so far bc it's been quick 3 step drops. The ball gets out in 2 seconds at the most.

No pss rusher will get to the QB that fast.

It's clear as day that he hasn't had many oppurtunities to pin his ears back.

His run defense since the Seahawks game has been much better.

I really don't see the reason why people are hitting the panic button based on his preseason. It's a HUGE overreaction.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

It's clear as day that he hasn't had many oppurtunities to pin his ears back.

His run defense since the Seahawks game has been much better.

I really don't see the reason why people are hitting the panic button based on his preseason. It's a HUGE overreaction.

Bc he looked horrible in the Seahawks game. He looked as lost as he did as a rookie in run defense.
To his credit, he's looked much better the last 2 weeks.

We'll see how he looks on 9/11.

[DaneMcCloud]

The biggest problem I have with Ford is that he doesn't have much of a "feel" for the game (much like Albert ****ing Wilson). Hopefully, that improves with each game.

Dadi Nicolas, a rookie 6th rounder who's 20 pounds lighter and is also a converted 4-3 end, already seems to "get it". His containment is better and his pass rushing skills are bad ass. He played well against the Bears first team offense yesterday.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The biggest problem I have with Ford is that he doesn't have much of a "feel" for the game (much like Albert ****ing Wilson). Hopefully, that improves with each game.

Dadi Nicolas, a rookie 6th rounder who's 20 pounds lighter and is also a converted 4-3 end, already seems to "get it". His containment is better and his pass rushing skills are bad ass. He played well against the Bears first team offense yesterday.

That kid reminds me so much of Tamba. Their mentality, effort and passion for the game are eerily similar.

Kid just needs an offseason in the weight room to bulk up so he can stop the run.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by RunKC

That kid reminds me so much of Tamba. Their mentality, effort and passion for the game are eerily similar.

Kid just needs an offseason in the weight room to bulk up so he can stop the run.

Send Dadi to Chiefsshrink.
He'll have him bulked up by week 2.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by milkman

Send Dadi to Chiefsshrink.
He'll have him bulked up by week 2.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The biggest problem I have with Ford is that he doesn't have much of a "feel" for the game (much like Albert ****ing Wilson). Hopefully, that improves with each game.

This is how I feel. He just looks like he's not a very good football player. He has no instincts. He looks like he's afraid of contact. The only thing the guy has shown is athleticism, and that's not going to be enough in the NFL.

The guy should be playing like his ass is on fire now that he finally has his chance. He's not.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by jspchief

This is how I feel. He just looks like he's not a very good football player. He has no instincts. He looks like he's afraid of contact. The only thing the guy has shown is athleticism, and that's not going to be enough in the NFL.

The guy should be playing like his ass is on fire now that he finally has his chance. He's not.

Nailed it... It's like he can get there, but once there he doesn't know what to do. He allows himself to get caught up in the trash by just being there. Not very instinctive at all. I'd be happy if he can develop just into a consistent pass rusher.

[milkman]

Ford isn't a bust yet, but he has to start to flash this year to avoid that label.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by milkman

Ford isn't a bust yet, but he has to start to flash this year to avoid that label.

Thats where I'm at

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by milkman

Ford isn't a bust yet, but he has to start to flash this year to avoid that label.

I'm sorry but I want more than "start to flash". The guy should look like a starter.

[Meatloaf]

Ford needs to gt better FAST. He's gonna be a starter and the parity in the league is so tight that we can't afford him to learn via "trial and error". What with Houston's status, we need Ford to be a complete OLB, not just a pass rusher. He's gotta consistently set the edge, dirty his nose on running plays, drop into coverage decently, etc. That's a lot to ask from where I think he is right now. Heck, I'm more impressed with Dadi Nicolas than I am Dee Ford. I think Dadi has a toughness about him that I just don't see with Ford.

* In the interests of fair and complete reporting, please understand that I never much cared for the Dee Ford selection, so there is a bias there on my part.

** Furthering the interests of fair and complete reporting requires me to note that I didn't form said bias based on the guys name or complexion or any such thing. Said bias was DEVELOPED after seeing this guy perform.

*** So happy we're finally seeing some football again!!!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Welp, this is year 3 for him and it looks like he will have opportunity to show us what talent he thinks he has. I think the play on Frank gore will be the theme of his career. Personally I think he's a moron with a burst. He will paddle his way to the end of his rookie contract and it will be over.

There's no doubt we will need to draft 4 edge rushers next year.

[RINGLEADER]

If Dee gets pressure we'll be fine. If he produces like he has in the preseason then we'll see more blitzes, give up more big plays, and have to score more.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

If Dee gets pressure we'll be fine. If he produces like he has in the preseason then we'll see more blitzes, give up more big plays, and have to score more.

except for the fact that Ford is playing Houston's position, not Hali's

Ford will be in space like 60% of the time.

Sutton will need to call a blitz before Ford even has a chance to 'get pressure'


Sutton trusted Houston to produce, he's not going to be nearly as likely to blitz Ford unless Dee proves early on that he can't get to the QB when given the chance.