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Old 11-05-2018, 12:52 PM   #1
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Wack, but Mahomes will have plenty more opportunities. This would just be motivation to go get the SB MVP this year.
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:05 PM   #2
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I really don't think Mahomes gives one shit or another if he wins MVP or not
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:11 PM   #3
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Let people talk about Brees all he wants, when voters get ready to cast their vote they are going to see the touchdown numbers and if they are plus 50 zero chance they pick Brees. They are going to fear looking like an idiot.
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:12 PM   #4
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Brees will win MVP because too many people love him so goddamn much. They'll look for reasons not to vote Mahomes like, "Yeah but look at all his weapons".
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:19 PM   #5
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Brees will win MVP because too many people love him so goddamn much. They'll look for reasons not to vote Mahomes like, "Yeah but look at all his weapons".
Yep, they love him so much they never gave him the award despite multiple 5000-yard seasons. The most of Any QB.

Mahomes will be breaking Lenny Dawson's record with 6 games left in the season. A record that has stood my entire life....with 6 games left.

He will also break the NFL record this week for 9 straight 300 yard games- no QB has ever done that in the history of the NFL.

31 total TD's with 7 games left to play. Amazing!
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Old 11-05-2018, 02:22 PM   #6
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Whenever I think of Drew Brees, I think of this commercial more than anything on the football field, and this commercial is horrific. I had never heard of "hot yoga" at the time, so I thought his hot yoga line was an incredibly awkward flirting thing.

I couldn't vote for Brees for MVP solely because of this commercial. You just don't do that kind of thing.

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Old 11-05-2018, 02:46 PM   #7
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Whenever I think of Drew Brees, I think of this commercial more than anything on the football field, and this commercial is horrific. I had never heard of "hot yoga" at the time, so I thought his hot yoga line was an incredibly awkward flirting thing.

I couldn't vote for Brees for MVP solely because of this commercial. You just don't do that kind of thing.
That was horrid but Brees won the lottery in life even with that thing on the side of his face.
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Old 11-06-2018, 04:10 AM   #8
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Whenever I think of Drew Brees, I think of this commercial more than anything on the football field, and this commercial is horrific. I had never heard of "hot yoga" at the time, so I thought his hot yoga line was an incredibly awkward flirting thing.

I couldn't vote for Brees for MVP solely because of this commercial. You just don't do that kind of thing.
That's odd. I felt this commercial only enhanced Derek Carr's MVP odds yet his career has seemingly fallen off a cliff since it was released.

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Old 11-05-2018, 02:28 PM   #9
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People aren't going to vote Brees over Mahomes because they like him more. Mahomes is breaking Brees' records.

Also people like Mahomes.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:02 PM   #10
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Man, **** Drew Brees. Man’s been in the league for like 17 season. If he hasn’t won an MVP by now then he just wasn’t good enough?

Has there even been a season in which the dude got snubbed? His best season I saw at a quick glance was 2011 with like 42 TDs and 12 INTs or something. Unfortunately for him, Rodgers threw 45 TDs and only 6 INTs.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:10 PM   #11
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I would vote for mahomes. But when I compare him to brees, it's really hard to see brees isn't just as deserving. And it's a total sham that brees doesn't have an mvp by now. Much as I'd like to say mahomes is the clear winner, it's pretty much a toss up and I'm glad as hell that mahomes is one of two runaway candidates for mvp, let alone against an obvious first ballot hall of famer.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:24 PM   #12
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I would vote for mahomes. But when I compare him to brees, it's really hard to see brees isn't just as deserving. And it's a total sham that brees doesn't have an mvp by now. Much as I'd like to say mahomes is the clear winner, it's pretty much a toss up and I'm glad as hell that mahomes is one of two runaway candidates for mvp, let alone against an obvious first ballot hall of famer.

Ok. Not even being condescending- which season did he get snubbed for MVP?
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:04 PM   #13
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Ok. Not even being condescending- which season did he get snubbed for MVP?
2009 and 2011

2009 - you have to have an absolutely elite season to justify back to back mvps. Brees had every right to win that mvp over Peyton

2011 - Rodgers had an outstanding season, but brees had a record shattering season

There have been plenty of others. There have been plenty of other seasons where brees was very very much in the conversation. But those two are the most obvious.
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Old 11-05-2018, 04:36 PM   #14
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2009 and 2011

2009 - you have to have an absolutely elite season to justify back to back mvps. Brees had every right to win that mvp over Peyton

2011 - Rodgers had an outstanding season, but brees had a record shattering season

There have been plenty of others. There have been plenty of other seasons where brees was very very much in the conversation. But those two are the most obvious.
Nah, **** all that. I'll argue that Aaron Rodgers' 2010 postseason continuing into his 2011 regular season was the best stretch any QB's played in NFL history. Brees' season was great but he was only even mentioned because of volume stats. He put up 5,400 yards to Rodgers' 4,600 but it took him 150 more attempts to do so. Rodgers literally averaged a full yard more per attempt. They both threw for 45 TDs but Rodgers only threw 6 INTs to Brees' 14.

Rodgers' 2011 legitimately shits on Brees'.

2009 is a better argument. Brees was statistically better than Peyton but Manning took that team to 14-0 before he sat out and they finally lost a game.

Even if you contend that Brees should have won, it's hardly a snub. That was also the year that CJ2k went over 2,000 and Brett Favre went off as well.
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Old 11-05-2018, 03:14 PM   #15
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It's not a toss-up. 18 TDs for Brees is 38% less TDs than Mahomes. That is not negligible; it's SIGNIFICANT. (Edit: I did forget Brees has missed a week but we are debating it right now, and even IF you give him let's say 3 TD in the week Mahomes misses, he's still miles behind either way.)

Mahomes is the MVP and it's not really close tbh. It's really not. Same way the DPOY race isn't close even though a few players have similar sacks to Donald, 1 even with more.
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