How to play this off-season with free agency?

[Walt White]

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE!

The longer Mahomes waits to sign a deal the more leverage he has.

Ya like Mahomes doesnt have all the leverage in the world or anything.

[Wilson8]

The main effort will be spent in who we can keep.

We have the following free agents -

CB Bashaud Breeland 28
DE Emmanuel Ogbah 26
DL Chris Jones 26
CB Kendall Fuller 25
TE Blake Bell 29
DL Mike Pennel 29
WR Marcus Kemp 25 ERFA
OL Andrew Wylie 26 ERFA
TE Deon Yelder 25 ERFA
DE Terrell Suggs 37
QB Chad Henne 35
QB Matt Moore 36
RB LeSean McCoy 32
RB Spencer Ware 28
FB Anthony Sherman 31
LB Darron Lee 25
DT Xavier Williams 28
S Jordan Lucas 27
CB Morris Claiborne 30
LB Reggie Ragland 26
C Stefen Wisniewski 31
CD Keith Reaser 29
WR Demarcus Robinson 25
TE David Wells 25 ERFA

If we are unable to re-sign Breeland and/or Fuller, we may be looking at a free agent CB.

[Chargem]

Lot of dumb takes in this thread, like cutting Fisher, Pennel is a better player than Jones.

The cap situation is actually pretty rough and next years team may not be as good as this one.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

I wouldn’t say it’s a bad situation. Most of the FAs are JAGs. Should be able to re-sign a few at reasonable rates. Let the rest walk. Tag Jones. Draft well. Repeat as champs.

[scho63]

We have a bunch of old players getting cut or not resigned.
Most players will take a deal favorable to KC to stay with a winner and Mahomes.
Would you leave KC and possibly get stuck playing for Cleveland or Tampa or Miami or the Jets or the Chargers or how many other teams going nowhere or down?
We will be better off than most of you realize.

[Walt White]

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty

Jones is most definitely coming back on a fat backloaded deal with signifcicant performance escalators and a decent bonus the first couple of years, If they do mahomes early - jones gets the tag. My prediction, we sign Jones to a five year deal worth 70 mil guaranteed, if he makes it to year five and collects all the bonuses its worth close to $130,000,000. We get to the next cba and sign Mahomes for an 7 year 40+ mil a year contract worth over 300 million dollars with incentives - more than half of which is guaranteed. It's too much money for a goddamned superbowl championship. We pay these guys too much money to play a stupid game, all that money could be going to cure cancer, fix the environment, feed people who don't have enough to eat, help those with mental illness, explore space, fix the roads, the schools or grow food. When it comes to this football shit, we are being pretty ****ing stupid. Maybe now that we won one we as chief consumers should demand lower prices for our fandom and the nfl investing in the health safety and future of the country instead of the pockets of guys who can play football good for a few years. I love the sport, I love our team, but I love America and all of her people more. These contracts, the idiotic speeches, all this other bullshit can go **** itself.

You realize that makes no logical sense right? This is a game, but it is a business. All the money that funnels into that revolves around this form of entertainment. And there are tons of people that make their living from the NFL or talking about the NFL. And the more money in the hands of people, the more they have to help others. And everyone that earns their money, they have a right to do with it what they want anyway.

And guess what, all those problems you listed, throwing money at the problem won't fix them. Because if they did, it would have been done by now. People continually give to help the poor and cure illness. There is a deeper rooted issue of why it isn't fixed. Get mad at governments or big industry that halts the progress of cures for their own gain.

I'd actually argue that the NFL and other sports actually help the aid of the world's problems. Not just bringing people together and hope and all the intangible things that are most important. But they often raise awareness way beyond the scale of most with the platform they are on. Because of money. And all the millionaires related to the game that earned their money are often very charitable.

But yeah, go ahead and don't buy NFL products or watch games if you want. It is your money.

[Walt White]

Originally Posted by scho63

We have a bunch of old players getting cut or not resigned.
Most players will take a deal favorable to KC to stay with a winner and Mahomes.
Would you leave KC and possibly get stuck playing for Cleveland or Tampa or Miami or the Jets or the Chargers or how many other teams going nowhere or down?
We will be better off than most of you realize.

I suppose the hope is to retain most of the core and add some pieces through the draft.

I do agree. Even if we have to lose a couple pieces, we are still ahead of the majority of the league and in contention. But I just feel we are right on the edge of true domination with all these pieces in place. I hope Veach can work some cap magic and make it happen.

I really feel like we are on the edge of being near unstoppable with the right moves. I don't want to even take a small step back. I hope we can find the way to leap forward and be a historic team. Especially with our offense. Beef up the line a bit, add a couple receivers and running backs to this group and we will be cooking. Even the defense man. Upgrade the linebacker and corner back core with some dogs and we could be looking at a top ranked defense.

[Dunerdr]

Hopefully we get cream of the crop JAGs after winning a SB and guys want to rebuild their career and spring board to a bigger contract here. If not we better hope we can trade Jones for some solid picks, because were short on picks and money.

[Walt White]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Hopefully we get cream of the crop JAGs after winning a SB and guys want to rebuild their career and spring board to a bigger contract here. If not we better hope we can trade Jones for some solid picks, because were short on picks and money.

I was thinking about that too. Those good players that get cut for whatever reason, we have the luxury to take chances on them for cheap. And they will likely want to come here.

Being in win now mode, I think we could even trade up again in the draft if we feel like a young franchise cornerstone could fall enough in our range. But picks being that much more important, we could also trade down. The draft is truly crucial to sustaining this success.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by Walt White

I was thinking about that too. Those good players that get cut for whatever reason, we have the luxury to take chances on them for cheap. And they will likely want to come here.

Being in win now mode, I think we could even trade up again in the draft if we feel like a young franchise cornerstone could fall enough in our range. But picks being that much more important, we could also trade down. The draft is truly crucial to sustaining this success.

I dont think we can afford to trade up with so few picks and such a high demand for cheap talent. I'd say if anything make a big push for an upgrade at IOL, could give mahomes time, and rbs better lanes. We need more picks and for veach to hit on the draft again. And for Rankin to come back Strong.

[KentuckyChief]

Just a fanboy thought......would love to have the Kelce boys together for another run. How bout a swap for Sammy. Wouldn’t happen but that would be fun. Doesn’t sound like Sammy is interested in coming back anyway.

[oldandslow]

Originally Posted by Walt White

You realize that makes no logical sense right? This is a game, but it is a business. All the money that funnels into that revolves around this form of entertainment. And there are tons of people that make their living from the NFL or talking about the NFL. And the more money in the hands of people, the more they have to help others. And everyone that earns their money, they have a right to do with it what they want anyway.

And guess what, all those problems you listed, throwing money at the problem won't fix them. Because if they did, it would have been done by now. People continually give to help the poor and cure illness. There is a deeper rooted issue of why it isn't fixed. Get mad at governments or big industry that halts the progress of cures for their own gain.

I'd actually argue that the NFL and other sports actually help the aid of the world's problems. Not just bringing people together and hope and all the intangible things that are most important. But they often raise awareness way beyond the scale of most with the platform they are on. Because of money. And all the millionaires related to the game that earned their money are often very charitable.

But yeah, go ahead and don't buy NFL products or watch games if you want. It is your money.

Rep, Rep, and more Rep. Great post.

[Walt White]

Originally Posted by KentuckyChief

Just a fanboy thought......would love to have the Kelce boys together for another run. How bout a swap for Sammy. Wouldn’t happen but that would be fun. Doesn’t sound like Sammy is interested in coming back anyway.

That's one of my dream targets. He even plays at a position we need. Would be so cool to see them together. Jason is getting older. But I think our only chance to get him would be in a couple years when his contract is expired and he is cheaper.

Other dream targets would be AJ Green or Chris Harris Jr. Both are getting older, but still probably out of our price range and unlikely. I don't know if trades are possible. I've seen some speculation that Green could get 18 mil a year? I would have guessed closer to 10. If that is the case, the overpays are tough. Not even sure what Chris Harris Jr. will command. But probably a lot in this market.

[BWillie]

Sign Ricky Stanzi.

We also need a back up guard. Sebastian Janikowski would be worth looking into as well.

[Chris Meck]

I seriously doubt you're going to see any big name FA.

We'll be doing well to keep most of the guys we want to keep as it is.

There will be some bargain hunting, and the draft.

That'll be about it.