Josh Allen is Philip Rivers 2.0

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

LOL

steve young was smart enough to be an absolute top-shelf lawyer

josh allen came out of wyoming

gtfo of here with that comparison

Allen scored 37 on the Wonderlic test, which is higher than the likes of Steve Young, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, & Patrick Mahomes. The dude isn't some braindead dipshit like Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Allen scored 37 on the Wonderlic test, which is higher than the likes of Steve Young, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, & Patrick Mahomes. The dude isn't some braindead dipshit like Vince Young or JaMarcus Russell.

Don't trust Wonderlic anymore. I think agents prepare them now, it's not the same as it was.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Don't trust Wonderlic anymore. I think agents prepare them now, it's not the same as it was.

Have you ever taken the test? It’s not like 2+2=4. It’s not something you just prepare for and get some super high score.

[dallaschiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

LOL

steve young was smart enough to be an absolute top-shelf lawyer

josh allen came out of wyoming

gtfo of here with that comparison

Skill set wise, he absolutely is more like Steve Young...who was better than Phyllis Rivers...and Allen is better than Rivers. Young also barely got him a SB...which will be Allen's fate, if he even gets one at all.

[TwistedChief]

In a league where Mahomes doesn’t exist, Allen would be the best QB.

Was that ever said of Rivers?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

In a league where Mahomes doesn’t exist, Allen would be the best QB.

Was that ever said of Rivers?

Honestly, I think Burrow is better.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

In a league where Mahomes doesn’t exist, Allen would be the best QB.

Was that ever said of Rivers?

There's a possibility Burrow is better

[Megatron96]

Didn't Steve Young win multiple SBs? Why do I think he won 2 or 3?

[Megatron96]

Yeah, Steve Young won 3 SBs. And a huge pile of other NFL awards/achievements, including twice named NFL MVP.

Josh Allen has a very long way to go to be on the same level as Steve Young.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Yeah, Steve Young won 3 SBs. And a huge pile of other NFL awards/achievements, including twice named NFL MVP.

Josh Allen has a very long way to go to be on the same level as Steve Young.

Steve was on the bench for 2 of his rings. Montana won them. Steve was the starting QB for 1 ring.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Steve was on the bench for 2 of his rings. Montana won them. Steve was the starting QB for 1 ring.

ah, that's right.

However, Steve's list of accomplishments is long, too long for me to type in here (because I'm kind of feeling lazy today and because there's a lot of it).

Josh ain't anywhere near Steve young. Not yet, anyway.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

ah, that's right.

However, Steve's list of accomplishments is long, too long for me to type in here (because I'm kind of feeling lazy today and because there's a lot of it).

Josh ain't anywhere near Steve young. Not yet, anyway.

These type of comparisons happen all the time, even in the Draft when a kid hasn't done anything. Obviously they have to stick around for a long time to have the overall career of anyone they are compared against.

Tech folks like myself were comparing Mahomes' talent to guys like Rodgers & Favre when he was a 19 year old true freshman. Allen has amazing talent as well. He's kind of a freak when you look at his body size, strong running ability, rocket arm, and high Wonderlic score. Some guys have the physical talent and zero brain (JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Cam Newton).

These young guys like Allen or Mahomes have to stick around a long time to have the type of overall career of guys like Steve Young or Rodgers/Favre. Only time will tell, but they both have tremendous potential.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DRM08

These type of comparisons happen all the time, even in the Draft when a kid hasn't done anything. Obviously they have to stick around for a long time to have the overall career of anyone they are compared against.

Tech folks like myself were comparing Mahomes' talent to guys like Rodgers & Favre when he was a 19 year old true freshman. Allen has amazing talent as well. He's kind of a freak when you look at his body size, strong running ability, rocket arm, and high Wonderlic score. Some guys have the physical talent and zero brain (JaMarcus Russell, Vince Young, Cam Newton).

These young guys like Allen or Mahomes have to stick around a long time to have the type of overall career of guys like Steve Young or Rodgers/Favre. Only time will tell, but they both have tremendous potential.

Concur.

Allen is a physical beast. I'll even say that he's a far better overall athlete than Young and possesses the better arm.

If he had Mahomes' processing ability and football acumen, he'd probably be the best that has ever played, eventually. heck, if he had Young's processing ability he'd probably be a lock to get one.

But he doesn't, thank God.

Not yet, anyway.

Allen could still go on and win a SB someday, in my opinion. He's talented enough, more than.

And he's come a long way from his first couple seasons.

As you say, time will tell.

[PunkinDrublic]

I don’t think it’s fair to pin it all on Allen, I think that whole franchise is wilting under pressure. Whether it’s the decision to bring Allen back prematurely, the OC throwing a hissy fit as time expired, the Bills are pressing themselves into making bad decisions. They should’ve sat Allen, conceded the L to Minnesota and focused on winning divisional games.

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

I don’t think it’s fair to pin it all on Allen, I think that whole franchise is wilting under pressure. Whether it’s the decision to bring Allen back prematurely, the OC throwing a hissy fit as time expired, the Bills are pressing themselves into making bad decisions. They should’ve sat Allen, conceded the L to Minnesota and focused on winning divisional games.

Yeah, but since it's superbowl or bust for them and they realize that we didn't take a step back like everyone thought we would and their own division is a lot tougher than they hoped it would be, they HAVE to take chances. Unfortunately for them it's not only costing them a chance for HF throughout, but they will probably have to play any playoff games on the road