CHIEFS DEFEAT CARL CHEFFERS REF THREAD

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

It was a fumble 7 years ago or whatever too. They ****ed us by calling it forward progress then and not reviewable. Unclear how it would be reviewable here either.

According to https://www.footballzebras.com/2022/...liveblog-2022/

It is newly reviewable this year.

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— fzclips (@fzclips) December 18, 2022

Am I the only one that felt like he regained possession against his thigh, and the ground caused him to ultimately fumble?

[Rainbarrel]

Get your helmet pulled off? Just look the other way Jeffery Dahmy of refs

[T-post Tom]

Offense needs a few more over the top throws to keep the opposing defenses honest. But a win is a win. Go Chiefs!

[scho63]

I'll trade all the REP I have for the chance to kick Carl Cheffers in the balls with steel toed shoes.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

11-3 and AFC West Champs... Haters gonna hate!

[Eleazar]

Worst Carl since Marx

[Chiefaholic]

There needs to be an external investigation against Cheffers. We're a better team than the score states.

[Sofa King]

**** the Broncos!

[jettio]

JuJu looked kinda silly delivering a blow to the tackler and have the ball getting knocked loose. That was a fumble. Heads up play by the LB, to immediately go for it. JuJu arguably had it pinned with his elbow to his side, but if the defender immediately goes for it, no problem calling that a fumble.

Seems like Chiefs DB were using their hands on the calls that were made. Except for the illegal contact on Thornhill at the goal line. That was bad call since the receiver moved into Thornhill. I think flag on Gay may have been ticky tack, but the TE caught the TD anyway.

Cheffers crew is nuts, but Chiefs DBs did not adjust. It was not like there were a bunch of plays where Texans DBs were using hands a lot and getting away with it.

Chiefs coaching should have been use hands less and make them complete a pass for the first down.

[Punwit]

Originally Posted by jettio

JuJu looked kinda silly delivering a blow to the tackler and have the ball getting knocked loose. That was a fumble. Heads up play by the LB, to immediately go for it. JuJu arguably had it pinned with his elbow to his side, but if the defender immediately goes for it, no problem calling that a fumble.

Seems like Chiefs DB were using their hands on the calls that were made. Except for the illegal contact on Thornhill at the goal line. That was bad call since the receiver moved into Thornhill. I think flag on Gay may have been ticky tack, but the TE caught the TD anyway.

Cheffers crew is nuts, but Chiefs DBs did not adjust. It was not like there were a bunch of plays where Texans DBs were using hands a lot and getting away with it.

Chiefs coaching should have been use hands less and make them complete a pass for the first down.

Ok how about slinging a player to the ground. Or how about the ridiculous blocking call call on McKinnon? Or ripping off a hemet and no call. What is your take on these?

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Punwit

Ok how about slinging a player to the ground. Or how about the ridiculous blocking call call on McKinnon? Or ripping off a hemet and no call. What is your take on these?

Mahomes has a black daddy and will never get a fair shake on roughing the passer calls. That non-call was bullshit and it was disappointing that Trent Green said it was a good call because the only roughing the passer he knew was body weight. Except for Romo, every CBS non play-by-play guy always says the referees original call was great unless there is an overturn or a replay makes it clear that the call was wrong.

Don't know what McKinnon play you are talking about? who was the player called for the penalty?

I'm good with no call on the Pacheco losing helmet. There was no grabbing of the facemask. What call do you think they should have called? If it is not a clothes line tackle or a actual grabbing of the facemask cage or earhole, I don't think it is a penalty unless excessively violent.

[Punwit]

Originally Posted by jettio

Mahomes has a black daddy and will never get a fair shake on roughing the passer calls. That non-call was bullshit and it was disappointing that Trent Green said it was a good call because the only roughing the passer he knew was body weight. Except for Romo, every CBS non play-by-play guy always says the referees original call was great unless there is an overturn or a replay makes it clear that the call was wrong.

Don't know what McKinnon play you are talking about? who was the player called for the penalty?

I'm good with no call on the Pacheco losing helmet. There was no grabbing of the facemask. What call do you think they should have called? If it is not a clothes line tackle or a actual grabbing of the facemask cage or earhole, I don't think it is a penalty unless excessively violent.

The flag was against McKinnon on a Mahomes scramble and I haven't seen a replay of Pacheco getting his helmet ripped off but the dudes hands were at the front of his helmet and I don't think it's possible to remove his helmet that violently without using his facemask.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Punwit

The flag was against McKinnon on a Mahomes scramble and I haven't seen a replay of Pacheco getting his helmet ripped off but the dudes hands were at the front of his helmet and I don't think it's possible to remove his helmet that violently without using his facemask.

I think the McKinnon call may be the JuJu fumble. Looks like a legal block because McKinnon's belt buckle was facing the end zone the Chiefs were attacking and not the one they were defending.

McKinnon did not use much force and the defender saw McKinnon before the contact and delivered a blow to McKinnon that knocked McKinnon down.

I could understand why a dumbass official that is on a dumbass crew would miss the call, but that McKinnon block on that play was not the type of block that the rule was intended to prevent.

[lcarus]

Do people really not think Cheffers and crew aren't crooked at this point? They ****ed our whole drive when we were up by 2 points and heading down to make it 9. Phantom holding on Juju on a big gain. Then they call a horse shit "blindside block" on McKinnon. Then they just award Houston the ball because Juju fumbled. It looked like he had the ball on the ground and let the Texans player take it because the whistle had already blown 10 seconds ago. Then they call illegal contact allllllll the way down the field for Houston until they finally get it in the end zone.

Then there was the awful PI on 3rd and 8 when Houston drove down to tie the game at 24.

There were several more flags that Cheffers actually picked up because at that point it was certain we weren't gonna cover the spread. The whole league reeks of bullshit with the gambling now being such a big part of it. It was always a big part of it but it was kinda behind the scenes and seperate. Now they're working together to make tons of money.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by lcarus

Do people really not think Cheffers and crew aren't crooked at this point? They ****ed our whole drive when we were up by 2 points and heading down to make it 9. Phantom holding on Juju on a big gain. Then they call a horse shit "blindside block" on McKinnon. Then they just award Houston the ball because Juju fumbled. It looked like he had the ball on the ground and let the Texans player take it because the whistle had already blown 10 seconds ago. Then they call illegal contact allllllll the way down the field for Houston until they finally get it in the end zone.

Then there was the awful PI on 3rd and 8 when Houston drove down to tie the game at 24.

There were several more flags that Cheffers actually picked up because at that point it was certain we weren't gonna cover the spread. The whole league reeks of bullshit with the gambling now being such a big part of it. It was always a big part of it but it was kinda behind the scenes and seperate. Now they're working together to make tons of money.

That was the other thing on that play. Even if it is a reviewable play now, how was it not ruled that he had recovered that ball if there was a fumble? Any "recovery" by the Texans came long after the play was over and the whistle was blown.

The game felt like it was being rigged to ensure the Chiefs didn't get out to big lead for the entire 2nd half.