Anyone see Adams shove the dorky camera kid?

[seamonster]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Honestly, because Adams chose to be a raider, I hope the kid gets enough money from Adams that Carr can't afford eye liner next season.


I view it like this....If I walked out of a sales meeting after not having my bid selected and flattened the copy delivery guy in the lobby on the way out the door....I get in trouble, I get fired.
you have to carry yourself in a certain kind of way outside the lines when you're a professional.

If an ESPN contractor shoved an NFL player they'd get arrested, fired and blacklisted. NFL players are emotional bitches.

[Megatron96]

Haha, this POS kid is now claiming 'whiplash,' and a 'concussion,' in spite of the fact that the clips don't show anything that might indicate he hit his head, the fact that he pops right back up and has a whispered conversation with the security guard that helped him up, during which he never reaches for his head, never staggers, never shakes his head, etc. I've had several concussions, and you always reach for your head, you always shake your head, which is usually when you stagger.

What a douchebag.

[jettio]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Haha, this POS kid is now claiming 'whiplash,' and a 'concussion,' in spite of the fact that the clips don't show anything that might indicate he hit his head, the fact that he pops right back up and has a whispered conversation with the security guard that helped him up, during which he never reaches for his head, never staggers, never shakes his head, etc. I've had several concussions, and you always reach for your head, you always shake your head, which is usually when you stagger.

What a douchebag.

For a low speed fall like that, backpack would be like an airbag in regards to whiplash..

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by jettio

For a low speed fall like that, backpack would be like an airbag in regards to whiplash..

Ok medical expert

[jettio]

Originally Posted by kcpasco

Ok medical expert

Have you reviewed any medical reports?

An ER physician or ER nurse practitioner takes note of what the patient says he is feeling.

Be great if the Chiefs decide not to authorize any more field pass credentials of the guy that hired the clumsy mother****er and did not tell him to watch where the **** he is going.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by jettio

Have you reviewed any medical reports?

An ER physician or ER nurse practitioner takes note of what the patient says he is feeling.

Be great if the Chiefs decide not to authorize any more field pass credentials of the guy that hired the clumsy mother****er and did not tell him to watch where the **** he is going.

You have a big strong dude in full pads shove some random small unexpecting guy holding a camera. You don’t know that persons past medical history or have any clue on what effects that shove had on him just because you perceive it didn’t look that bad. This is another reason why you don’t assault people.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by jettio

For a low speed fall like that, backpack would be like an airbag in regards to whiplash..

Probably. It would depend on a few things, I think.

But I've had whiplash twice, both from car accidents. My father was my physician for the first one because i was still in HS. The thing about whiplash is that for a young healthy adult it usually requires an acceleration/deceleration moment that's hard to replicate by being pushed to the ground by another human being. Even a NFL WR. If it were that easy to induce, you'd see NFL players suffering from whiplash during every game.

Now, it's possible the kid had some prior injury/condition that made him more susceptible, but then why doesn't he ever grab for his neck? Whiplash hurts. A lot. You're going to reach for your neck when it suddenly feels like someone shoved a red-hot nail into your neck. That's just basic reflexive reaction.

I would've bought the sprained ankle thing, or even maybe he broke his tailbone, since he fell on concrete. But whiplash? Concussion? having experienced both multiple times, I just don't see anything in the videos that support those claims, not even close.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Probably. It would depend on a few things, I think.

But I've had whiplash twice, both from car accidents. My father was my physician for the first one because i was still in HS. The thing about whiplash is that for a young healthy adult it usually requires an acceleration/deceleration moment that's hard to replicate by being pushed to the ground by another human being. Even a NFL WR. If it were that easy to induce, you'd see NFL players suffering from whiplash during every game.

Now, it's possible the kid had some prior injury/condition that made him more susceptible, but then why doesn't he ever grab for his neck? Whiplash hurts. A lot. You're going to reach for your neck when it suddenly feels like someone shoved a red-hot nail into your neck. That's just basic reflexive reaction.

I would've bought the sprained ankle thing, or even maybe he broke his tailbone, since he fell on concrete. But whiplash? Concussion? having experienced both multiple times, I just don't see anything in the videos that support those claims, not even close.

I agree. Camera guy is a pussy.

Doesn't matter though. Adams was very much in the wrong there. He should be suspended and he should be fined.

I'm sure he'll be found guilty of the ordinance violation.

Beyond that though, I sincerely doubt the camera guy had any legitimate injury and more than likely faked the shit out of it hoping he could score a few bucks, which he undoubtedly will.

In the end, is what it is. He didn't push himself down.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I agree. Camera guy is a pussy.

Doesn't matter though. Adams was very much in the wrong there. He should be suspended and he should be fined.

I'm sure he'll be found guilty of the ordinance violation.

Beyond that though, I sincerely doubt the camera guy had any legitimate injury and more than likely faked the shit out of it hoping he could score a few bucks, which he undoubtedly will.

In the end, is what it is. He didn't push himself down.

All true. Except I won't call the kid a pussy. he is seemingly a money-grubbing unethical pos, but apparently that's worthy of hero worship these days.

Just a little surprised that so many are just "drinking the Kool-Aid" this kid is spouting, when there's almost no evidence to back any of it up. I mean, I get we hate the Raiders, but come on . . .

[suzzer99]

Some CPers really struggle with two things being true at once:

1) Adams was a dick for shoving the kid and should be punished

2) The kid should have watched where he was going - it's literally in the job description to stay out of the players' way near the tunnel


Also from some of those other angles it looks like there's a non-zero chance the kid did it on purpose - which is bolstered imo by him already getting a lawyer and claiming whiplash. It sure looks really unlikely he got anything like a concussion or whiplash from that mild tumble.

[kcpasco]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Some CPers really struggle with two things being true at once:

1) Adams was a dick for shoving the kid and should be punished

2) The kid should have watched where he was going - it's literally in the job description to stay out of the players' way near the tunnel


Also from some of those other angles it looks like there's a non-zero chance the kid did it on purpose - which is bolstered imo by him already getting a lawyer and claiming whiplash. It sure looks really unlikely he got anything like a concussion or whiplash from that mild tumble.

Are you a doctor? Are you claiming a conspiracy that some doctor would risk his reputation by lying.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Some CPers really struggle with two things being true at once:

1) Adams was a dick for shoving the kid and should be punished

2) The kid should have watched where he was going - it's literally in the job description to stay out of the players' way near the tunnel


Also from some of those other angles it looks like there's a non-zero chance the kid did it on purpose - which is bolstered imo by him already getting a lawyer and claiming whiplash. It sure looks really unlikely he got anything like a concussion or whiplash from that mild tumble.

His first day on the job. He probably had plenty of stuff on his mind. Like any new guy they were probably making him jump too.

[Iowanian]

and Scuzzer argues the kid shoved himself down....

[KCUnited]

Hadn’t considered the kid doing it on purpose. Definitely makes more sense than it being his first day on the job.

[SuperBowl4]