Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters.

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Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

So basically you wanted to risk the "success" of Smith on an unproven product..

As any coach with a reasoning mind would, especially at this stage of his undeniable decline, yes.

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You realize we went into Foxboro last year without 4 of our top five players (Ware/Charles/Maclin/Houston), right? And we lost by one score. To even imply that we weren't SB contenders last year with a healthy squad is just flat out ignorant. The Broncos won the lombardi and we essentially dominated them in both regular season games

yes, that was my entire point on a guy like Mariota. I am acknowledging that this is a Super Bowl caliber roster and a guy like Mariota (and many others) could overcome the injuries in the playoffs that Alex cannot and people like you get to use as his free pass. I am expecting the same excuse this season as well. We got close but if Alex had _____, ______ & ______, we would have won! I want a QB that gives you a chance to overcome that excuse.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

yes, that was my entire point on a guy like Mariota. I am acknowledging that this is a Super Bowl caliber roster and a guy like Mariota (and many others) could overcome the injuries in the playoffs that Alex cannot and people like you get to use as his free pass. I am expecting the same excuse this season as well. We got close but if Alex had _____, ______ & ______, we would have won! I want a QB that gives you a chance to overcome that excuse.

A top 5 defense, a top 5 offensive line & a good WR not named Maclin.

Those are the excuses that will be debated ad nauseum in three months.

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[Al Bundy]

Is TU still saying that Alex Smith didn't throw the game losing pick in the end zone?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

Is TU still saying that Alex Smith didn't throw the game losing pick in the end zone?

It's the defense's fault for allowing more than 6 points.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

A top 5 defense, a top 5 offensive line & a good WR not named Maclin.

Those are the excuses that will be debated ad nauseum in three months.

Outside of a few people who have their reputations invested at this point, I think most fans will be ready for going after a qb. And that's even if Smith gets back to at least last year's play. I'm also assuming the rumblings out of arrowhead about the organization thinking of improving the qb position as legit.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Outside of a few people who have their reputations invested at this point, I think most fans will be ready for going after a qb. And that's even if Smith gets back to at least last year's play. I'm also assuming the rumblings out of arrowhead about the organization thinking of improving the qb position as legit.

You're vastly overestimating the intelligence of fans who don't post here. Most fans are more than happy with the product on the field.

Further, there's zero probability the FO moves on from Smith this offseason. It's a fantastic notion because they aren't drafting high enough and there is an absolute dearth of products at QB likely to be available in the draft.

If you thought the 2016 class with Goff and Wentz was bad? Hah.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You're vastly overestimating the intelligence of fans who don't post here. Most fans are more than happy with the product on the field.

Further, there's zero probability the FO moves on from Smith this offseason. It's a fantastic notion because they aren't drafting high enough and there is an absolute dearth of products at QB likely to be available in the draft.

If you thought the 2016 class with Goff and Wentz was bad? Hah.

I thought you were referring specifically to topics on this board in the off-season, and therefore only cp members. I'm well aware of the true fans that exist in this fan base overall.

I do believe the organization will look. Now finding one is another proposition altogether. If they draft one, no matter what round, I would fully expect them to have Alex starting over them.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

You're vastly overestimating the intelligence of fans who don't post here. Most fans are more than happy with the product on the field.

Further, there's zero probability the FO moves on from Smith this offseason. It's a fantastic notion because they aren't drafting high enough and there is an absolute dearth of products at QB likely to be available in the draft.

If you thought the 2016 class with Goff and Wentz was bad? Hah.

Dude look at QB's in the NFL today. Brady, Wilson, Dalton, Cousins, Dak, Carr, Taylor.

None of those guys were first round picks and few thought they'd be as good as they are showing.

Even Kessler has looked good for a horrific Browns team.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Dude look at QB's in the NFL today. Brady, Wilson, Dalton, Cousins, Dak, Carr, Taylor.

None of those guys were first round picks and few thought they'd be as good as they are showing.

Even Kessler has looked good for a horrific Browns team.

There's something to be said for taking a chance which is obviously something I wish KC would do.

But those guys you pointed out are just examples of being on the upside of probability. There's no guarantee any first round pick will ever be worth a shit and that becomes even more of a truism the further you progress into a draft.

[BigCatDaddy]

8500 times someone has viewed this thread and thought "Damn, TigerBob is a dumb sumbitch".

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

8500 times someone has viewed this thread and thought "Damn, TigerBob is a dumb sumbitch".

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

A top 5 defense, a top 5 offensive line & a good WR not named Maclin.

Those are the excuses that will be debated ad nauseum in three months.

Top 5 o line? Are you ****ing high?

And how can our defense be in the top 5 if our run defense is in the bottom five?

[Reerun_KC]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

8500 times someone has viewed this thread and thought "Damn, TigerBob is a dumb sumbitch".

99% truth.