NFL Draft Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 - Page 39

**chiefforlife** · 02-21-2009, 09:39 AM

SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS
Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m.

Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion.

And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day.

Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff.

We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players.

Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.”

The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee.

“He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted.

“What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.”

Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person.

“As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader.

“The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.”

(And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.)

So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.

**DeezNutz** · 02-23-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i positive repped him for this very reason, sorry guys i dont agree with all his takes but he's right on about the name calling

Perhaps I've underestimated the backlash to the Roberto Alomar tree?

My gut said it should have been a shrub because a tree was just too much, but alas...

**SAUTO** · 02-23-2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Perhaps I've underestimated the backlash to the Roberto Alomar tree?

My gut said it should have been a shrub because a tree was just too much, but alas...

not because of any tree

just the name calling gets a little out of hand sometimes

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

ChiefsPlanet does not operate on the premise that there is no such thing as a stupid question, or a stupid take for that matter.

I understand we heard these bullshit proclamations growing up, but they were false. There is actual stupidity in this world. Posters might be special to someone, but they're not necessarily special here.

We've all been on the receiving end to an extent, so people need not get their panties in a bunch. Wear thongs.

When 86% of the posters agree on something and the 14% call them stupid, i give the credibility to the 86%

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

You don't have to.

But you've repeatedly made claims that others are rooting you on, and, at times, you've attempted to be the voice of the majority against the gang of 5 or 14 or whatever the number.

I don't believe you've seen much support, so thus the request.

who cares what you believe, some have already come out in this thread and said so. the poll in the other thread is a pretty good indicator too, when only 14 people disagree with my point of view.

Reerun_KC · 02-23-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

who cares what you believe, some have already come out in this thread and said so. the poll in the other thread is a pretty good indicator too, when only 14 people disagree with my point of view.

So are people supposed to bow down to you now?

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

So are people supposed to bow down to you now?

i could care less what they do. i was just calling out the 5 children. if people dont like me fine. But when 5 people go run up the neg reps and then claim im unpopular because they are insecure in their own need to be right its kind of like an episode of Saved By the Bell.

Reerun_KC · 02-23-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

i could care less what they do. i was just calling out the 5 children. if people dont like me fine. But when 5 people go run up the neg reps and then claim im unpopular because they are insecure in their own need to be right its kind of like an episode of Saved By the Bell.

No offense, but you come off like a pompus ass... You been here a month and already have pissed off people with your, bow to me attitude...

Just saying...

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

No offense, but you come off like a pompus ass... You been here a month and already have pissed off people with your, bow to me attitude...

Just saying...

again, who really cares what you think.

"Bow down to me attitude" another words, I didnt "bow down" to the blowhards.

Reerun_KC · 02-23-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

again, who really cares what you think.

"Bow down to me attitude" another words, I didnt "bow down" to the blowhards.

Case and Point...

Thanks...

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Case and Point...

Thanks...

oh, I see. If i dont bow down to YOU, then thats makes me pompous?

brilliant. keep talking.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Case and Point...

Thanks...

A real sophisticated charmer, this one.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

A real sophisticated charmer, this one.

why should your dick be sucked? You aint king of anything. its a CHAT SITE!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-23-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

oh, I see. If i dont bow down to YOU, then thats makes me pompous?

brilliant. keep talking.

You get what you give. If you can't understand that, then mommy didn't raise you right.

Pioli Zombie · 02-23-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

You get what you give. If you can't understand that, then mommy didn't raise you right.

no, not in this case. this isnt life. its an internet message board where 10 or 15 get a lifers fill their lives bullying and swearing at people. thats all.

Dinny Bossa Nova · 02-23-2009, 12:39 PM

You kids quit yer argufyin' and try and get along with one another.

Dinny

02-21-2009, 09:39 AM
chiefforlife Colorado Chief Fan Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $5493147	Neither Stafford or Sanchez belong in top 10 SOME DON’T VIEW STAFFORD, SANCHEZ AS TOP TEN PICKS Posted by Mike Florio on February 21, 2009, 8:21 a.m. Our initial mock draft of the year created plenty of consternation among folks who regard such matters even more importantly that some of our other readers regard their chosen religion. And, yes, we were trying to make a point with the thing. At this stage, none of the draft experts (i.e., guys who couldn’t get or hold a scouting job with an NFL team and who instead tried to create a niche in the media for the stuff no NFL team would pay them to do) know with any degree of certainty what will occur on draft day. Apart from the premature nature of prognosticating the events of late April is the fact that every NFL team makes its own decisions for its own reasons, especially in round one. Some draft based on need. Others take the best available player. And when 32 teams have different views on how those available players are ranked from best to worst, the stage is set for all sorts of screwy stuff. We could have created even more consternation by dropping Georgia quarterback Matt Stafford and USC quarterback Mark Sanchez out of the top ten. In some war rooms, it’s an accurate view of the two players. Said one source, “In other years those guys aren’t first-round picks. Stafford played well in 2007 but was horrible in 2008. He stunk in all their big games.” The source specifically pointed to the contests against Alabama, Florida, and Tennessee. Based on the numbers, Stafford was bad against Florida, mediocre against Alabama, and decent against Tennessee. “He is an average leader at best,” the source opined. “When you put a lot of pressure on him, he pees his pants. Detroit has a new front office, but if they take him then it’s the same old stuff. I guarantee that if he goes in the top 20 he will never play to the level he was drafted. “What he has is physical skills,” the source added. “He has a strong arm and is athletic but he also has poor instincts and poor decision-making.” Some might disagree with that assessment. But the point is that, when you’ve got a bunch of different folks assessing the same players, there will be significant variations from person to person. “As far as Sanchez,” the source said, “he is a more solid choice. He played in a pro style offense. He’s accurate and has a good arm. He’s smart and a leader. “The negative is he was a one-year starter. Tell me the last time a quarterback who was a one-year starter in college made it big in the NFL? Game time is huge with quarterbacks. Granted, from a money standpoint he made the right decision, but from the standpoint of having a top career, his decision has to be questioned.” (And, no, our source isn’t Pete Carroll.) So there you have it. Evidence of how the viewpoints on supposedly top players can diverge dramatically. It makes the process of predicting draft picks even more precarious. So, in the end, we think the final tally of players taken two months from now would presently seem every bit as goofy and unrealistic as some viewed our initial Pre-Combine Mock Draft.
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