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Old 03-01-2005, 12:54 PM   #1
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I hate to even debate this since it's been established that those stats don't coincide with the whole teacher/student thing. Its obviously based on averages. Say 1 in 100 boys becomes a drug user, but 2 in 100 molested boys becomes a drug user, it seems pretty straight forward. Being molested doesn't automatically equate to drug abuse, although my poor use of hyperbole has convinced Endelt that it does. Even so, he'll be throwing a kegger for his molested kids.
People who are willing to violate one societal taboo may well be willing to violate another. That doesn't mean that the violation of the first taboo is what led to the violation of the second societal taboo. It also doesn't mean that if you somehow prevent the person from violating the first taboo that he/she will necessarily be less likely to violate the second taboo.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:57 PM   #2
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People who are willing to violate one societal taboo may well be willing to violate another. That doesn't mean that the violation of the first taboo is what led to the violation of the second societal taboo. It also doesn't mean that if you somehow prevent the person from violating the first taboo that he/she will necessarily be less likely to violate the second taboo.

I think you like the word TABOO. Taboo , taboo, taboo.
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Old 03-01-2005, 12:58 PM   #3
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People who are willing to violate one societal taboo may well be willing to violate another. That doesn't mean that the violation of the first taboo is what led to the violation of the second societal taboo. It also doesn't mean that if you somehow prevent the person from violating the first taboo that he/she will necessarily be less likely to violate the second taboo.
The key word is "willing". Again, it may not relate to these cases, but I'd hardly call the victim of sexual abuse "willing". Many experts also believe that the ones that claim to be "willing" are incapable of understanding all of the underlying issues of such a relationship.
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Old 03-01-2005, 10:13 AM   #4
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Old 03-01-2005, 10:47 AM   #5
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Here's one link for men and sexual abuse.

http://www.ncptsd.org/facts/specific...l_assault.html
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:01 AM   #7
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That link's not terribly useful for making your case. You're making an argument for the mental fallout of a young male who has sex with an adult female teacher. That site's talking about sexual assaults in general (and it mentions that 86% of the time the perpetrators are men).

I'd imagine the trauma that results from a 17 year old male (the average age given of the victims on that link) being sexually assaulted by a male perpretator is likely to be much different than that resulting from a female perpetrator.
Ya, I said in a later post that they were stats for boys that were sexually assaulted, not boys that were sexually assaulted by teachers. I probably won't find any studies with that specific of criteria.

Even so, I doubt this is good for a child's mental health. I can only wonder how you'd feel if it were your child...
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:03 AM   #8
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Would people be more upset if the teacher was a man and the student a girl?
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:08 AM   #9
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Would people be more upset if the teacher was a man and the student a girl?

Yeah, this has never been brought up before.
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Old 03-01-2005, 01:37 PM   #11
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Ya, I said in a later post that they were stats for boys that were sexually assaulted, not boys that were sexually assaulted by teachers. I probably won't find any studies with that specific of criteria.

Even so, I doubt this is good for a child's mental health. I can only wonder how you'd feel if it were your child...
Women aren't good for the mental health of men in general. At least this kid is getting some sex out of it.
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:07 AM   #12
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Hell Yes.

If it were my kid, I'd probably be pissed either way. It IS a position of authority and can be manipulated.

I went to a small school and know for a fact that 2 guys in my class poked a teacher. I know of a couple of other teachers who left under suspicion of it, and one that was caught with a student Baow Deep.

I have a problem with a male teacher-girl for the reason that Girls read more into sexual encounters more and are more "invested" as a rule....whereas the average 16 year old is just happy to have his noodle soaking.

Both are wrong and the female teachers should be in trouble....same as a man.
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:26 AM   #13
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She said something like, "I like to french kiss."

The daughter said, "So what? Everyone does."

The yokel said, "Yeah, but my science teacher says that I'm the best."
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The writers of that movie won't be laughing in ten years when that girl's addicted to crack.
Child molesting is hilarious.
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