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Old 11-20-2005, 09:56 PM  
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Jared Allen, Long Snapping
I hope Allen does really well long snapping tonight.

With all due respect to Gammons and the great snapping he's given us, it's a total waste of a roster spot. We need a long snapper that also serves another purpose for the team.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:30 PM   #46
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The only other player on the team you could make a comparison to is Gary Stills, since all he does is play special teams. Judging by our coverage units, it looks like we're wasting a roster spot on him too.
Yeah, well given how well they played last night, we might need about 10 more Gary Stills...
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:32 PM   #47
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That has to be the coaching. Not only are our coverage units horrible, our return units look god awful aswell.

Looks like Frank Ganz Jr has been living purely off Dante Halls ability for the last few years.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:34 PM   #48
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The only other player on the team you could make a comparison to is Gary Stills, since all he does is play special teams. Judging by our coverage units, it looks like we're wasting a roster spot on him too.
Stills has played LB in defensive sets this year. He's played DE in the past.

I guess maybe I should just look at him the same way I see a Kicker or Punter. A specialist that is neccessary.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:35 PM   #49
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I'm not sure about every team... I know the Colts carry a long snapper, Justin Snow is his name I do believe. I would guess there are others.

Maybe it was me but I thought one of his XP snaps was a bit high. Maybe it was just because it was a rocket.
Can anyone tell me how often a Denfensive ends hands and fingers get jammed, and taped up? I'll bet it is more often than a long snapper. Oh, how much does that affect a DE's rushing ability to the detriment of a team winning a game? I don't think we can say the same if the long snapper snaps a ball that skips to the holder of a potential game winning FG, or a critical field postion punt.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:39 PM   #50
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Yeah, and it cost the Giants the playoffs.
I remember that, the dude blew 2 snaps in a row.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:41 PM   #51
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It's not that I don't like Gammon and what he's done for us. I just think if we had a LS that also provided depth, we could have maybe kept a guy like Lilja or Gado on our roster ( just examples, not saying they would have made it),v or it would allow us to activate a guy like Thorpe so we could get him some reps.
If Lilja, Gado or Thorpe could have played ST's that's possible, I guess. As critical as the position is in converting XP's and FG's, I think it's worth spending at least one spot on a guy that does it pretty much full time.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:48 PM   #52
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That has to be the coaching. Not only are our coverage units horrible, our return units look god awful aswell.

Looks like Frank Ganz Jr has been living purely off Dante Halls ability for the last few years.
Or you could go back and admit that Bob Dole was correct when he said that we'd really miss Derrick Blaylock's contributions on special teams...
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:52 PM   #53
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Or you could go back and admit that Bob Dole was correct when he said that we'd really miss Derrick Blaylock's contributions on special teams...
That's probably a contributing factor. Looks like there's a few of them that have really hurt our return game. There are no words to describute our coverage units though, but then again those have been bad for years.
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Old 11-21-2005, 02:56 PM   #54
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Or you could go back and admit that Bob Dole was correct when he said that we'd really miss Derrick Blaylock's contributions on special teams...
I don't think anyone has to tell Bob Dole he was right. He seems to tell himself that often enough for everyone.
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Enough of this discussion. It's time for blame. Which of our own players pushed Gammon down to cause the injury? It happened so fast that I could only narrow it down to either Scanlon or Grigsby. (I'm pretty sure their number ended in a 1.)
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I don't think anyone has to tell Bob Dole he was right. He seems to tell himself that often enough for everyone.
It's probably just that Bob Dole is so rarely wrong...
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