Chiefs Without Gun this is a 4-12 Team - Page 4

KCJohnny · 01-06-2007, 11:58 PM

Herm came in and achieved "balance". That's what you could say after having a D suck so bad the past 5 years that getting under 300 points (we didn't) would have been a monumental achievement. But in the name of "balance" we took the league's best offense and demoted it to a predictable, 1-dimensional cliche that dropped SIXTEEN places in ranking and performed worse than almost any offense in NFL playoff history (126 yards of total offense).

I think without Gun trying to make shinola out of $#!+ with Herm's insistance on Cover 2, this team is horrible. The Colts game shows that the testicles are on D, and that is NOT because Herm "changed the focus". If DV was here, we'd be 14-2 and laughing at the Colts because he kept Gun. That said, this team had better realize that flushing DV's O leaves not much in its place. Thank God for Gun, because without him and these over-acheivers, this team is a waste of talent. Hopefully Gun stays and keeps this team at least semi-competitive.

KCJohnny · 01-07-2007, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

At least it is his $#!+. All the players on defense are the ones he wanted, plus a couple of draft picks and Law thrown in.

And you know it was a bad day when a defense that gives up 450 total yards (188 yards rushing) is the bright spot.

Get a %^&*()%$ clue, dude. we didn't make a 1st down until 3:33 was left in the 3rd quarter and took the ball away 4x. We were in this game until the O just laid down and quit. This D was tremendous today on the road against an 8-0 home team. If this O gets 10 first downs, Indy's offensove output is reduced by 33%.

milkman · 01-07-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Delegation is a bitch, isn't it. How many DCs have Holmgren and Shanahan gone through? It's called specialization, and DV brought something to the table. (More than just something, actually.) Edwards is an absolute joke.

And Dick was an absolute joke on the other side of the coin.

The sorry sad fact is, Carl's entire tenure is a study in head coaching futility.

Reerun_KC · 01-07-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And Dick was an absolute joke on the other side of the coin.

The sorry sad fact is, Carl's entire tenure is a study in head coaching futility.

We have done a complete 180 Milkman.. Herm is absolute Shit on the Offensive side of the ball....

We once were all Offense and no D

Now we will be all Defense and no O....

chiefsfan1963 · 01-07-2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And Dick was an absolute joke on the other side of the coin.

The sorry sad fact is, Carl's entire tenure is a study in head coaching futility.

No matter how you slice it DV would not have produced the most embarrassing NFL playoff loss for any team!

That legacy won't be there for him.

KCJohnny · 01-07-2007, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

We have done a complete 180 Milkman.. Herm is absolute Shit on the Offensive side of the ball....

We once were all Offense and no D

Now we will be all Defense and no O....

WRONG!!!!!!!!!
Now we are some defense and no offense. Please annotate.

Hammock Parties · 01-07-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

You just don't want to acknowledge the job Gun did with ZERO stars on D and some vets, hopefuls and maintenance players. Without Gun's D today, we lose 56-0.

I'm acknlowedging that someone did an incredible job on defense this year. That someone is NOT Gunther Cunningham. It's Herm Edwards.

Gunther's claim to fame is drooling over talentless has-been's like Kendrell Bell.

Coogs · 01-07-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

there isnt a Defense in the league that really would have done better in the RCA dome.

Defense did OK. Gave up a boatload of yardage and got a little lucky on some of Mannings decisions today. But overall they did OK. Not enough for me to see Gun as the almighty. And I can think of a couple of other defenses that could have done the same as the Chiefs did. Shoot, the Bears did it on a weekly basis last year with their 3 and out offense.

KCJohnny · 01-07-2007, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

No matter how you slice it DV would not have produced the most embarrassing NFL playoff loss for any team!

That legacy won't be there for him.

He's right. This has the negative potential of scarring the franchise for generations like the Bills losing 4 SBs. BAD NEWS.

Coach · 01-07-2007, 01:01 AM

It would be nice to have a GM that understands the importance of having a coach that understands offense as well as a defense.

milkman · 01-07-2007, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfan1963

No matter how you slice it DV would not have produced the most embarrassing NFL playoff loss for any team!

That legacy won't be there for him.

Maybe not.

All I know for certain is that it doesn't matter if you suck the left cheek, or the right cheek.
Either way, you are still sucking ass.

Coogs · 01-07-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Get a %^&*()%$ clue, dude.

I was referring to your quote that Gun made a defense out of crappy defenders. Shinola out of $#!+, was your terms. All the players on that D were the ones Gun wanted. You may have been overseas or something, but Gun gave CP his shopping list, and CP filled it plus a few players like DJ, Hali, and Law.

Hammock Parties · 01-07-2007, 01:06 AM

Didn't Gunther want that waste of skin Siavii, too?

Yep, Gunther is AWESOME. He totally doesn't need Herm.

We should have promoted Al Saunders to head coach so the offense would kick ass while Gunther raised the D up on high all by himself!

kcxiv · 01-07-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Defense did OK. Gave up a boatload of yardage and got a little lucky on some of Mannings decisions today. But overall they did OK. Not enough for me to see Gun as the almighty. And I can think of a couple of other defenses that could have done the same as the Chiefs did. Shoot, the Bears did it on a weekly basis last year with their 3 and out offense.

I said better, i didnt say the same. In all honesty thats about the best you can do to indy at home. They are just to good of an offense at home.

The whole game plan was to keep everything in front becuase if you blitz he will burn you for big yards. Whats the old saying, you cant stop them you can only hope to contain. Well thats what they did, and the offense just didnt show up.

FringeNC · 01-07-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

And Dick was an absolute joke on the other side of the coin.

The sorry sad fact is, Carl's entire tenure is a study in head coaching futility.

Yeah, DV's D at Philly and at StL were jokes, right? The sad fact is that we traded in a HOF coach for a sub-100 IQ asshhole.

milkman · 01-07-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Yeah, DV's D at Philly and at StL were jokes, right? The sad fact is that we traded in a HOF coach for a sub-100 IQ asshhole.

I don't give a rat's ass what Dick did in Philly or StL or Bumfuk, Egypt.

What he did in KC for 5 years was field one of the shittiest defense the NFL had ever seen.

**** him and his wonderful ****in' O.
**** Hermie and his wonderful ****in' D.

**** Carl and his old boy network.

They can all kiss my ass and suck your dick, cause I'm ****ing tired of fielding half assed teams.

01-06-2007, 11:58 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Without Gun this is a 4-12 Team Herm came in and achieved "balance". That's what you could say after having a D suck so bad the past 5 years that getting under 300 points (we didn't) would have been a monumental achievement. But in the name of "balance" we took the league's best offense and demoted it to a predictable, 1-dimensional cliche that dropped SIXTEEN places in ranking and performed worse than almost any offense in NFL playoff history (126 yards of total offense). I think without Gun trying to make shinola out of $#!+ with Herm's insistance on Cover 2, this team is horrible. The Colts game shows that the testicles are on D, and that is NOT because Herm "changed the focus". If DV was here, we'd be 14-2 and laughing at the Colts because he kept Gun. That said, this team had better realize that flushing DV's O leaves not much in its place. Thank God for Gun, because without him and these over-acheivers, this team is a waste of talent. Hopefully Gun stays and keeps this team at least semi-competitive.
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