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Old 05-20-2009, 12:27 PM  
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Teicher: Offense is the Chiefs' biggest problem
I went to the Chiefs’ first full offseason practice wondering more about their defense, but I left with more questions about the offense.

Let’s start with the offensive line: Very thin without Brian Waters there. They’ve got two starters who are over 30 — Damion McIntosh is 32, Mike Goff is 33 — and both those guys had better hold up or the Chiefs might be in some trouble. Very thin as far as depth; very few proven experienced guys as backups.

The receiving group without Tony Gonzalez: I’m wondering, like everybody else, how that’s going to all play out. Dwayne Bowe dropped some balls and made some nice catches also, but he looked a lot like the Dwayne Bowe we saw last year. The Chiefs really need him to be more consistent because you’ve got Mark Bradley and Bobby Engram behind him. Engram is 36. Not a lot of depth there, either.

The running game with Larry Johnson: You’ve heard me say before the Chiefs need Johnson. He’s their running game. I didn’t really see a guy who’s capable of handling the every-down load like Johnson is. They used Jamaal Charles like they did last year as a third-down back.

Matt Cassel didn’t have one of his better days, but he’s the least of the Chiefs’ concerns right now. It was a windy day; I’ve seen him throw indoors since joining the Chiefs at an earlier minicamp, and there’s no problem with Matt Cassel.

Chan Gailey: I have a lot of respect for him. He did a great job turning the offense around last year after a rotten start and all the quarterback problems. But he’s going to have to earn his money again this year, because there are a lot of issues with the Chiefs offensively.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1206906.html


Not sure if this is a repost or not, but very interesting considering our defense was 2nd worst in the league last year. Your thoughts?
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:09 PM   #46
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Ha that article basically says what I said after the draft, they've put Matt Cassel in a position to fail.
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:15 PM   #47
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Ha that article basically says what I said after the draft, they've put Matt Cassel in a position to fail.
I think that's exactly what they intended.

Hey, we inherited a team with holes at nearly every single position! We must make sure that we address them all in one draft, or we've failed!
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Old 05-20-2009, 04:16 PM   #48
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Agreed, but i think they are a different type of mobile. Thigpen is the kinda of mobile that you could almost make him a wide receiver. Cassel is pretty tough though, i've seen him take some hits that would put Brodie Croyle into a coma.
Didn't the pre-game handshake once break Croyle's arm?
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I think that's exactly what they intended.

Hey, we inherited a team with holes at nearly every single position! We must make sure that we address them all in one draft, or we've failed!
If you decide you're getting your QB now, you are obligated as a franchise to put him in a good position.

You don't go get a QB then spend all your money and picks on defense, or that QB will fail.

It's why what the Lions did was stupid, they didn't put Stafford in a good spot either with their moves.

If you decide Cassel is your franchise guy you are obligated to put him in a situation that is atleast good enough for him to not get his brains beat in and shit on himself.
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If you decide you're getting your QB now, you are obligated as a franchise to put him in a good position.

You don't go get a QB then spend all your money and picks on defense, or that QB will fail.

It's why what the Lions did was stupid, they didn't put Stafford in a good spot either with their moves.

If you decide Cassel is your franchise guy you are obligated to put him in a situation that is atleast good enough for him to not get his brains beat in and shit on himself.
I think they just saw a good opportunity to get their QB. Either the draft didn't fall so that they could get the O-Linemen they wanted or they think they can work with what they have. I don't necessarily think they've set Cassel up for failure.
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I think they just saw a good opportunity to get their QB. Either the draft didn't fall so that they could get the O-Linemen they wanted or they think they can work with what they have. I don't necessarily think they've set Cassel up for failure.
Did you miss the rotoworld post that essentially says the Chiefs have 2 players worth a shit on offense?
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Did you miss the rotoworld post that essentially says the Chiefs have 2 players worth a shit on offense?
Continuing your rampage against Larry Johnson?
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Did you miss the rotoworld post that essentially says the Chiefs have 2 players worth a shit on offense?
So what's the proper solution? Draft guys who won't start this year (if ever), or get a bunch of high priced overrated veterans?

These things take time. I don't think they want Cassel to fail, but there's the fact that our defense was absolutely atrocious that needs to be addressed as well.
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This is what I posted right after the draft...

Watch I will now provide a take as to why I think this draft creates issues that has nothing to do with Scott Pioli.

Everyone knows I like Mark Sanchez right...but when you decide you are going to trade for Matt Cassel and essentially say this is our guy, you don't set him up to fail.

When the Chiefs decided they would trade Tony Gonzalez, then go into the draft which was very deep at OL and WR and proceed to draft a bunch of defensive players in what is considered a weak defensive year. This is called being married to a defensive scheme and trying to shoehorn it in no matter what.

If you want to say Tyson Jackson was the right pick you can, but after that they really should have focused on the deep OL and WR positions in the draft. Leaving Matt Cassel with 1 dependable receiver and no upgrades on the Oline is just asking for him to look bad and get his brains beat in.

That is how you ruin a player, when you take a young guy and decide he is your franchise you do things to put him in a position to succeed not fail. What the Chiefs did this weekend was not fair to Matt Cassel.
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So what's the proper solution? Draft guys who won't start this year (if ever), or get a bunch of high priced overrated veterans?

These things take time. I don't think they want Cassel to fail, but there's the fact that our defense was absolutely atrocious that needs to be addressed as well.
Sure it does but when I'm a 2 win team that makes a move for a QB, I'm more concerned with him at that time. A defense can be rebuilt quickly, you ruin a QB, you signed your release.
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Continuing your rampage against Larry Johnson?
He's a 30 year old running back with the mentality of a 5 year old.
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He's a 30 year old running back with the mentality of a 5 year old.
He's worth a shit on offense despite all of that.

Please recognize it.
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He's worth a shit on offense despite all of that.

Please recognize it.
When he's not hurt.

He may be worth a shit, but he's certainly not worth his contract.
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He's worth a shit on offense despite all of that.

Please recognize it.
The only way he's worth a shit is if the O-Line can create holes for him, and he then runs with the same physical style he ran with 3 years ago.

Otherwise he's ****ing useless.
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In comparison to what?

If you did a listing of RB's in the league where's he coming in at? 20th? I'm not gonna spooge myself over an aging RB that still doesn't pick up blitzes that is watching nearly every RB in the league pass him on the good scale.

We're at a point now where we're talking about a 30 year old RB, a 36 year old WR, a WR who literally can not stay healthy...and then Bowe who I like but he's far from Mr. Reliable right now as if they can get the job done.
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