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Old 02-18-2010, 12:16 PM  
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Bradford to skip combine workout.
Per ESPN he will attend personal meetings but will not participate in physical tests till Oklahoma's pro-day.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:46 PM   #46
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No ****ing shit.



I'm not saying he regressed, I'm saying he played his worst games against his best competition and literally shit himself in his two biggest games.



Correlation does not imply causation. Your logic is awful

No Iglesias
No Gresham
No Loadholt
No Robinson

But yes, because Andre Ware, Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, Graham Harrell, and David Klingler put up stats they must have talent.

Yeah, Bradford was a really good college QB. So were Gino Toretta, Ken Dorsey, and all of the aforementioned bums.

There's no similarity between the college spread offense and the NFL.
I'm basing my opinion of Bradford based on his PLAY and mainly his accuracy. I, believe, regardless of system, he still has the talent level to make the transition.

I also would say, the OU players you mentioned, get more credit than they deserve, as being some kind of UNGOLDLY WEAPONS, that some how gives Bradford an unfair advantage. That's a reach, in my book.

Iglesias, was GOOD, not some major NFL talent. Gresham was INJURED, last year, so not used as a weapon for long in '09. The O-lineman, you mentioned, were long gone in
'09. and, YET, OU WAS STILL a FAVORITE to compete for a national championship, Bradford's a big reason for that.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:47 PM   #47
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Andre Ware, Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, Graham Harrell, and David Klingler

Yeah, Bradford was a really good college QB. So were Gino Toretta, Ken Dorsey, and all of the aforementioned bums.

There's no similarity between the college spread offense and the NFL.
And NFL teams all had all those guys projected being drafter where? They have Bradford being projected where? You can't just eliminate a guy because he put up good college numbers bro. You forget to mention guys like Rivers and Brees that were both in the gun like 90% of the time.[/quote]

Klingler, and Ware top 10 picks and considered better prospects than Bradford.
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Alex Smith went #1 overall how'd that work out?

A guy not being from a pro style offense and not making NFL throws sets him back in a huge way, you can bring up Sanchez all you like if he had gone back to SC and was in this class he'd be the #1 QB.
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Old 02-18-2010, 07:52 PM   #49
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I'm basing my opinion of Bradford based on his PLAY and mainly his accuracy. I, believe, regardless of system, he still has the talent level to make the transition.

I also would say, the OU players you mentioned, get more credit than they deserve, as being some kind of UNGOLDLY WEAPONS, that some how gives Bradford an unfair advantage. That's a reach, in my book.

Iglesias, was GOOD, not some major NFL talent. Gresham was INJURED, last year, so not used as a weapon for long in '09. The O-lineman, you mentioned, were long gone in
'09. and, YET, OU WAS STILL a FAVORITE to compete for a national championship, Bradford's a big reason for that.
So, because the media hyped the defending Heisman trophy winner (shocker) and overrated his team, that means he's worthy of that praise?



Iglesias was a good college WR
Gresham was the best player on that offense
Loadholt, Robinson, and Williams were all elite college OL

Not to mention the fact that he had two 800 yard rushers.
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So, because the media hyped the defending Heisman trophy winner (shocker) and overrated his team, that means he's worthy of that praise?



Iglesias was a good college WR
Gresham was the best player on that offense
Loadholt, Robinson, and Williams were all elite college OL

Not to mention the fact that he had two 800 yard rushers.
I believe he was hyped because of his play. I also believe his play, is what landed him the HT.

I'm not saying, he's the second coming, but I do think he's going to be a good pro, and part of is due to his accuracy. I believe accuracy is the most important skill a QB can have.

Just my take, man.

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Bradford should go to a team that runs the WCO and be allowed to sit for 2-3 years like Kolb.

That's the only way I see him being successful.
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On top of the system issues, the issue is, this is a guy that never got hit and as soon as he got hit, he got hurt.
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And NFL teams all had all those guys projected being drafter where? They have Bradford being projected where? You can't just eliminate a guy because he put up good college numbers bro. You forget to mention guys like Rivers and Brees that were both in the gun like 90% of the time.
Klingler, and Ware top 10 picks and considered better prospects than Bradford.[/QUOTE]

Considered by who? Link please?
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On top of the system issues, the issue is, this is a guy that never got hit and as soon as he got hit, he got hurt.
That wasn't the first time he had ever been hit and it wasn't like he fell down on his shoulder without a 250lb LB right on top of him. It was a good shot, but yeah, I'm concerned about his durability as well. That's my main concern.
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So, because the media hyped the defending Heisman trophy winner (shocker) and overrated his team, that means he's worthy of that praise?



Iglesias was a good college WR
Gresham was the best player on that offense
Loadholt, Robinson, and Williams were all elite college OL

Not to mention the fact that he had two 800 yard rushers.
Gresham is overhyped a bit as are a lot of OU players. Bradford was the best player on that offense however.
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Gresham is most likely the best NFL player from that team, he had come out last year he was easily a top 15 pick.
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Considered by who? Link please?
Klingler was picked 6th overall, Ware was picked 7th.

How do you not know this?
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Gresham is overhyped a bit as are a lot of OU players. Bradford was the best player on that offense however.
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Looks like more than just a few passes longer than 5 yards...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztPkDsOlGzU

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I didn't say he threw 5 yard passes, I said he threw passes to guys who were open by 5 yards, which is pretty heavily illustrated in that video.

It's hard to judge accuracy when he doesn't have to make tight throws.
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