Broncos | Mcdaniels Compares Tebow To Brady

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

SLOW NEWS DAY? LET'S REPOST!!!!

♦ Woody Paige of The Denver Post sat down with Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, and the former Patriots assistant said Tim Tebow has the “It” factor, similar to Tom Brady. Said McDaniels: “When Tom came to us in 2001, I wasn’t on the offensive side of the ball, but I can remember the feeling in the building was that he had something that nobody else had … and how strongly he felt that ultimately he would be a great player. It was obviously apparent in subsequent seasons.

“That confidence affects everybody,” McDaniels added. “We could see it last week at rookie camp. There were a bunch of rookies out there with no confidence, except [Tebow]. He’s got such confidence that he will just not let himself fail.”

(Sung to the tune of "London Bridge")

R-o-R just pissed him-self,
pissed him-self,
pissed him-self.

R-o-R just pissed him-self,
Cuz-he's laugh-ing...

[ClevelandBronco]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i love how pointing out that his skill set blows equals bashing


let's name all the QBs who had to completely rework the mechanics they'd been using competitively their whole lives - rework after college - who have gone to be great NFL QBs...


1.

I can name one that had shitty mechanics throughout his career, and it didn't seem to hurt him. Bernie Kosar.

It happens.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I dont laugh at the fact that Denver drafted Tebow.

I laugh at any team that would draft such a huge project in the first round though unless they can afford to sit him for two years. Especially a team that traded three good picks to get up to 25 to take him. I think he would have been an excellent pick for the Vikings at 30 and said so before the draft, I just dont think it was a good move for Denver.

Sergio Kindle
Morgan Burnett
Dennis Pitta

or

Tebow

I would have rather had the three players, but that is just my preference.

I do think he can be a good player.

A QB is way more valuable than a possibly broke LB or a TE.

As I mentioned in the post above, Tebow was a freebie due to all of McDaniels moves in the draft.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

A QB is way more valuable than a possibly broke LB or a TE.

As I mentioned in the post above, Tebow was a freebie due to all of McDaniels moves in the draft.

those were the players that were available at those draft spots they traded away to take Tebow.

its not a "broke linebacker or a TE" its a broke linebacker, a good safety to pair with Dawkins and a good receiving tight end...or a quarterback that is realistically a two year project that lacks a lot of the raw physical skills to flourish at a championship level in the NFL.

But, again, that is JMO from a fans perspective.

If they win playoff games with the kid, it was a homerun trade.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BossChief

those were the players that were available at those draft spots they traded away to take Tebow.

its not a "broke linebacker or a TE" its a broke linebacker, a good safety to pair with Dawkins and a good receiving tight end...or a quarterback that is realistically a two year project that lacks a lot of the raw physical skills to flourish at a championship level in the NFL.

But, again, that is JMO from a fans perspective.

If they win playoff games with the kid, it was a homerun trade.

If it only takes two years for Tebow to be championship level, the Chiefs should have taken him.

He'll have been the steal of the draft if he's got the Broncos in the AFC Championship or Super Bowl in 2012.

[thecoffeeguy]

I just think Tebow has a long way to go as far as being a QB from many aspects.

He is working on his throwing motion, and that will take some time.
He worked out of the shotgun almost exclusively at Florida as part of Urban Myers system. He needs to get used to taking snaps from under center.

Lastly, reading defenses. I think that is going to take him a long time to do. He had very simple reads at Florida, and adjusting to the NFL is going to be a big adjustment. He also does not have a big time WR to go to since Marshall was traded.

The last QB that was picked in the 1st round that came from Urban Myers system was Alex Smith. Good kid, smart, had the physical tools, but we all know how that panned it. It didnt.

he has a long way to go, and he may do well. But I highly doubt he will have a immediate impact.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by thecoffeeguy

The last QB that was picked in the 1st round that came from Urban Myers system was Alex Smith. Good kid, smart, had the physical tools, but we all know how that panned it. It didnt.

he has a long way to go, and he may do well. But I highly doubt he will have a immediate impact.

Alex Smith is the starter in San Francisco. If they hadn't been so screwed up the past several years (hiring and firing coaches, changing offensive philosophies, etc.), he may have found more success.

As to Tebow, I don't think anyone expects him to have an immediate impact or even contribute this year. He's a project, but if he pans out, he could be a tremendous player.

And if he doesn't, all he cost the Broncos was the 25th overall pick in a year where they had two first rounders and two third rounders. It's a small price to pay for someone with his potential.

[Buehler445]

I agree with Dane that if Tebow pans out we're ass****ed. But I don't think it will happen. Primarily for reasons mentioned above.

And I have a hard time thinking that McDaniels got better players in the draft than he kicked to the curb, but by the same token, they're going after the "right" guys like we are. . We'll see but I'm definitely rooting for him to go down in flames.
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[DaFace]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All of the people bashing Tebow had better hope that he doesn't turn out because quite frankly, I wouldn't bet against him.

He's a great athlete, has an incredible work ethic and is being coached by a guy that got a very good 2008 performance out of Matt Cassel.

If he can do that with Cassel and his limited arm strength, decision making, athleticism and lack of leadership, it could be downright scary if he actually hits on Tebow.

While I don't personally see much chance that Tebow will suddenly surprise everyone, it definitely could happen. That's part of why I never get all that excited laughing at other teams (or genuinely excited about the Chiefs) based on offseason moves. You never know how it'll work out in the end.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If it only takes two years for Tebow to be championship level, the Chiefs should have taken him.

He'll have been the steal of the draft if he's got the Broncos in the AFC Championship or Super Bowl in 2012.

thats not what I said.

I said he is a 2 year project that lacks a lot of the "physical tools" to flourish at a level that wins championships.

Honestly, if Josh doesnt try to take his legs away from the kid and lets him use his mobility as part of his game/playbook, he can be a weapon in the league. The problem there is that I think he will try to make him Tom Brady and keep him in the pocket instead of using what is probably his best strength, in his mobility, to try and win games.

Honestly, I think they took a guy very very similar player to Thigpen with a first rounder. But his true value is how he raises the level of competition for the rest of the team and if that is effective enough to win big games in the playoffs.

time will tell if he does that.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That doesn't change that I laughed when I read about it.

You are such a cum guzzling tool of the broncos. No matter what they do, NO MATTER WHAT, you will defend it. You have absolutely 0 objectivity.

If the Chiefs took Tebow, you would be laughing to no end, but since you guys did, you would swallow his manhood if it meant you would win some games again.

You LOVED Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler and the rest of the guys "wonderboy" has ran out of town. You know what each of their juices taste like. Now that they are gone, you pick them apart.

Again, 0 objectivity.

Tell us all how you truly feel, right now, about Clady because Id bet dollars to donuts he's next.

I haven't said anything negative about Scheffler other than he is not a blocking TE and that is what McDaniels wants from his TE's. Cutler is just a Grade A douche.
Marshall, while he is a trouble maker, is still a top 5 WR in the NFL and I would have preferred we kept him. Hopefully Russ Lande is right about Demaryius Thomas when he said that he was the best WR in this draft and was one of the 5 best players in the entire draft.

[thecoffeeguy]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Alex Smith is the starter in San Francisco. If they hadn't been so screwed up the past several years (hiring and firing coaches, changing offensive philosophies, etc.), he may have found more success.

As to Tebow, I don't think anyone expects him to have an immediate impact or even contribute this year. He's a project, but if he pans out, he could be a tremendous player.

And if he doesn't, all he cost the Broncos was the 25th overall pick in a year where they had two first rounders and two third rounders. It's a small price to pay for someone with his potential.

Yes, Smith is the starter at SF, but he has never really produced as you would like for a 1st rounder. Things might change though now, as his OL is getting upgraded, he has Gore at RB and Crabtree and Davis as receiving threats.

Like I said, Tebow may pan out. But he has a long way to go.

[CarlPeterson_fan]

I actually wanted to see Tebow succeed. Until he was drafted by the Donks. Now I want to see a Ryan Leaf/JaFatass career for him.

[thecoffeeguy]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I haven't said anything negative about Scheffler other than he is not a blocking TE and that is what McDaniels wants from his TE's. Cutler is just a Grade A douche.
Marshall, while he is a trouble maker, is still a top 5 WR in the NFL and I would have preferred we kept him. Hopefully Russ Lande is right about Demaryius Thomas when he said that he was the best WR in this draft and was one of the 5 best players in the entire draft.

Golden boy Thomas will quickly learn that just running straight lines will not get it done in this league. He will actually have to run routes.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

I haven't said anything negative about Scheffler other than he is not a blocking TE and that is what McDaniels wants from his TE's. Cutler is just a Grade A douche.
Marshall, while he is a trouble maker, is still a top 5 WR in the NFL and I would have preferred we kept him. Hopefully Russ Lande is right about Demaryius Thomas when he said that he was the best WR in this draft and was one of the 5 best players in the entire draft.

So basically, the guys you used to like because they were Broncos you dont like anymore because they arent and you really like the new players that are Broncos?

Sounds about right.

If you ever want to earn some respect around here, be objective about your team. Even a little.

There is a difference between being a fan and a full blown blind homer that seems to just follow like a sheep no matter what happens.

You would walk right off the edge of a cliff if the Broncos said that is the best plan.

Seriously, you should just start getting detached from Clady because I am about 80% sure he is on another team in a year or two. He fit the old scheme but doesnt fit as well with the new one and with his recent injury, he will be a "spendable asset" sooner rather than later. Just look at the draft.

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

i love how pointing out that his skill set blows equals bashing


let's name all the QBs who had to completely rework the mechanics they'd been using competitively their whole lives - rework after college - who have gone to be great NFL QBs...


1.

1. Aaron Rodgers

2. Philip Rivers NEVER adjusted his mechanics.

And the criticism of Tebow's mechanics are overrated.

The problem with his delivery, McDaniels said, was not as much the left arm action as the right side body reaction. Tebow's nonthrowing arm was flailing, and his right side was bailing out. He's corrected the throwing motion and cocked position, is releasing the ball quicker, and has eliminated the inaccurate sidearm passes. McDaniels had Tebow tuck his right elbow, straighten his shoulders and concentrate on forcing the "15" (on his jersey front) to fall off (figuratively) when he throws.

"See, he's doing it, after just a couple of days," McDaniels said, looking at the screen. "What's it going to be like after 65 practices? He gets it."

McDaniels has said that EVERY QB he has ever coached has had to adjust things in the offseason and sometimes during the season.