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Nice find Tom. Costanzo got OWNED all day. Was that really just one game?
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I'll be back.
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Yes, certainly Chiefs history is proof of this.
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I am football jesus, hear me roar.
I am no noob. I was here before almost all of you. I'm not as into the dick jokes, fart jokes, and general childishness as some folks so I mostly lurk. In my opinion, we led the league in rushing because in addition to Jamaal Charles being very, very damned fast, he's also very quick and shifty. Most of his yards came outside the tackles either on sweeps or broken plays. He can change direction on a dime and be moving full speed like very few backs you'll ever see. This is why Thomas Jones had a rather pedestrian ypc. He doesn't suck, he just requires actual blocking to create an actual hole. Our line was fair at doing that outside, and horrible at running between the tackles. I don't know what to tell you if you didn't see it that way, seems pretty obvious to me. Wiegmann can pull well, but is way too small to put a helmet on a DT and move him. That's just a fact. He's also 38. This is also a fact. These two facts, in my opinion, would make C a real priority. As further evidence to my opinion-note our inability to EVER pick up one freaking yard on a 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 without resorting to either trickery or trying to pass. Now on a 3rd and 8, we might pick up 20 on a Charles sweep left. When we needed one damned yard, we could rarely get it. Therefore, I surmise that we are not physical enough inside, starting at C where Wiegmann probably weighs about 250 late in the season. YMMV, Football Jesus. nyuck, nyuck. p.s.-I would like to pick up serviceable upgrades at NT, WR, maybe OLB, and perhaps even C in free agency and then just draft BAA. That may not be possible looking at the FA lists. Chris |
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I can't wait for Round 2 where we pick up a RT. We have greater needs than a LT in round 1.
I echo the sentiments of other people in the thread. OLB/WR/NT/C are our greatest needs. |
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That safety we drafted is really good and i dont want to draft a lineman in the first, im getting tired of the chiefs spending there first round picks almost every year on a fat mother ****er who sucks.Wiegman was horrible couldnt get no push on no one u guys are really ****ing stupid to say wiegman was the best offensive lineman this year that we had.This is what usually happened hike oh shit wiegman just got pushed down.
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If stephen phea is there at 21 we need to take him.He is undersized but 54 reps at 225 pounds.Squats 600, bench presses 500 do i need to say anything else he will be good and will every play command a double team which is what we need.I think we need nt,ilb,olb,and center
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I am all about Best Player available. But you must not ignore needs to a point. If a stud DE like clayborn or watt are there when we pick i personally think that is BPA over a RT.
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OLB: Aldon Smith or Jeremy Beal WR: Torrey Smith or Jon Baldwin DT: Marvin Austin C: Stefen Wisniewski OLB: Smith seems to have a lot of potential, but I like Beal's overall game better. He's shown he can drop back in coverage and be effective, as well as being able to support the run and rush the quarterback. I think he fits what the Chiefs would want in their LOLB more than a guy like Smith, who, at this point, would be more of a project than an immediate contributor. Smith might be gone before the 21st pick based on his athleticism and potential, and it might be a little high for Beal. However, given the need for 3-4 OLB's and the lack of them in this draft, it's not out of the realm of reason. WR: Smith is a speedy return guy/receiver. You can find that same guy later on in the draft like Cobb from Kentucky or Johnson from USC. Baldwin looks to be a possession receiver only. You don't draft possession receivers in the first round. And, frankly, I'd rather have Pettis or Hankerson or Little in the second or third round than spending a first on a #2 wide out. DT/NT: If Paea is gone, the only two guys worth a high pick for a potential NT slot are Marvin Austin and Jerrell Powe. (Phil Taylor is also a possibility, but he hasn't shown enough on the field to be considered a first day pick, let alone a first round pick.) Powe has good size (6'3", 325 lb.) but his production was off this year and would most likely be there in the second or even third round. Austin has all the intangibles (6'3", 315 lb. with a lot of athleticism to go with the mass), but has a reputation for being a selfish player and was suspended by the NCAA for receiving improper benefits. As well, the Chiefs have a long history of crapping out on first/high pick defensive tackles. C: Wisniewski is strong, smart and has the bloodlines (though I don't necessarily think that counts for much). He's a viable pick, though I don't think he's of the same talent level as recent first round center picks Alex Mack or Maurkice Pouncey. I also think he's the exact same player as Zane Taylor, who you could get about four rounds later. versus the offensive tackles: Derrek Sherrod: Big, muscular frame. Three year starter at LT. Graduated with a 3.5 in business. Solid player with a lot of upside. Could play either tackle spot. Tony Costanzo: Looks to be the type of guy Haley would want. He's experienced (four year starter, one at RT, three at LT), athletic and shows a good skill set. Is used to a pro style zone blocking set (which Haley uses). Lots of room on his frame for additional growth. There is a lot of potential here, especially if the Chiefs continue to make Charles the featured back and want their offensive linemen, particularly the tackles to get out into space in the second level. Demarcus Love: A four year starter at guard and both tackle spots with excellent size. Tough, mauler who would be most suited to be an NFL guard as he lacks the balance and finesse to work on the edge. Tyron Smith: Junior early entry is probably the most gifted tackle prospect in the draft, but at 6'5", 280 lbs., and only having played the RT spot for two years, there is a lot of "project" about Smith. Nate Solder: Huge guy at 6'9", 315 lbs., Big 12 Offensive Linemen of the Year, First Team Walter Camp. Only allowed one sack in 2010. Three year starter at left tackle. Very athletic. Gabe Carimi: Four year starter at left tackle for the Badgers. Excellent footwork and very good athleticism for a guy of his size (6'7", 325 lbs.). First team Walter Camp in 2010. Carimi, Solder and Costanzo are virtually identical. Long, athletic, smart and experienced with excellent work ethics. None will make it out of the first round. Lee Ziemba of Auburn is similar to these three (long and athletic, 6'8", 310 lbs. First Team Walter Camp) and might be there in round three. After these guys, it's going to be hit or miss for a potential tackle prospect. It's not a very deep tackle class, but there is a lot of potential talent at the top of it. Guys like Joe Barksdale (LSU), Marcus Cannon (TCU), Marcus Gilbert (Florida), and Chris Hairston (Auburn) look like right tackles or guards at the next level and will be there in round three and beyond. So, in summary as it relates to this mock, Wisniewski is a possibility as an alternative to an OT. That's about it unless you want to roll the dice on a guy like Aldon Smith or draft a possession receiver. Seeing how we only had three tackles on the roster and they all sucked. Or you could go with a QB like Mallet. |
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You want three first rounders at defensive end so one can sit on the bench? And that's a need over upgrading Richardson or Callaghan? What?! I'm sorry that Pioli blew the 2009 draft and that this draft is one of the best 3-4 DE drafts I've ever seen, but at this point, you can't possibly draft another defensive end when there are substantially more holes to fill. Especially after the quality year that Shaun Smith put in. That's nuts. |
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