Chiefs interested in Soliai and Manning could hold up FA in general

[Carlota69]

Soliai has suitors, but Peyton chase could be a factor
Posted by Mike Florio on March 13, 2012, 10:56 AM EDT

APMike Freeman of CBSSports.com raised an interesting point earlier today on Twitter.

“When does the Manning backlash begin?“

The answer could be “very soon,” when fans and media begin to realize that Peyton’s indecision could keep teams on the sidelines in free agency.

Multiple league sources have pointed out already that some teams will wait to see whether they land Peyton before opening the change purse for other players. One guy caught in that dilemma, we’re told, is Dolphins nose tackle Paul Soliai.

Soliai played under the franchise tag in 2011, and he’ll hit the market at 4:00 p.m. ET on Tuesday. A league source tells PFT that the Broncos, Dolphins, Chiefs, Colts, 49ers, Patriots, and Falcons are interested.

But three of those teams (Denver, Miami, San Fran) reportedly are (or, at to the Niners, may be) in the Peyton chase. And so, while other teams that aren’t maneuvering for Manning are interested in Soliai, it’s hard to max out the market if half of the interested teams are twiddling their thumbs for Peyton.

The Broncos have the cap space to allow them to start spending while waiting for Peyton. Still, they need to know how to best budget their money, especially if Peyton will be bringing Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark and Jeff Saturday.

Bottom line? While free agency begins in five hours, it may not really get going until Peyton picks a team.

[Sofa King]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Yeah if we were to make moves like those that DJ posted we might even go 11-5 with Cassel, like he did in New England. We all know it was because of the supporting cast!!!
Then either get put out in the first round, as usual, or might even get a win which we would all love. But that is as far is it will go with Cassel IMO.

If we make all the moves DJ posted, then we wouldn't have Cassel starting anymore....

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Cassel would not be the starter with the moves I suggested.

No, Orton would be. And he's not really an upgrade.

[Carlota69]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

No, Orton would be. And he's not really an upgrade.

Yes he is just for the simple fact that our D would get more rest. That alone is an upgrade.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I hate to go all truefan here, but take a look at this team with a couple of additions and easy draft picks:

Sign Soliai
Sign Winston
Sign Orton
Draft DeCastro (Richardson is gone with the RGIII deal, IMO)

We would have the best offensive line in football and it wouldn't even be that close. We would have a QB that has proven capable of throwing for 3,500+ yards when given time and a supporting cast. Good lord - how do you stop us from running right with DeCastro and Winston over there? And we're not exactly dogmeat with Albert and Asomoah on the other side. Especially when you have to respect Moeaki in the seam, Baldwin deep and Bowe over the middle...y'know, since we have a real QB at that point.

We would have an extremely young defense with literally not a single real hole, though you'd like to see a more dynamic threat at the DEs, that's just not how Romeo plays.

Those 4 moves are extremely doable and would make us a legitimate contender. Use a 2nd rounder on David Wilson, a 3rd on Broyles, a 4th on a TE...

We'd be ready to rock.

That team can win a championship. It's not sexy, it's not flashy, but it's incredibly doable.

I don't know if that could win a championship but if Manning isn't coming to us I would be ok with this. It is better than rolling out Cassel on day one.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Close only counts in horseshoes and hanggernades.

The Ravens and 49ers were both muffed special teams plays away. Just like the Chiefs in 1995 and how many other dozens of teams over the years?

The 2000 Ravens are an anomaly.

Yes, it can be done. But holding your breath waiting for the 1 in 100000 chance is going to end up with you suffocating, not with the Chiefs ground-pounding their way to a Super Bowl...

Who's holding their breath here?

For the most part, it only seems to be the QB ideologues that are going to hold their breath and stamp their feet until the Chiefs just conjure a 'franchise QB' from whole !@#$ing cloth.

There isn't one available - there just isn't, not this season. Manning's not coming here, Flynn is just another Cassel, Tannehill is just not a smart pick given the talent available on the board. He may be good in 3 years, but in the next 3 years we can likely find someone just as talented (Tannehill is a 2nd rounder any other season).

Please God, quit repeating yourselves. We all know it's easier to win with a premier QB in this league but you can't just create one - you have to have one available to you. In lieu of same, find someone you can win with and surround them with the best team possible.

Eliminating the QB position, that team would be the best team in the AFC. What else can you ask for? Given the circumstances we find ourselves in, it's possible to construct a Super Bowl contender. I'd say that's a pretty exciting idea.

Or hell, just keep holding your breath and stomping your feet. I'm sure that will fix everything.

The rest of us will actually operate in the realm of reality.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Cassel would not be the starter with the moves I suggested.

I view Orton and Cassel in the same breathe. Orton has always struggled in the red zone. I don't think that Orton will come here since Pioli isn't going to cut Cassel. This will be Cassels last opportunity.

[ChiefsCountry]

Don't forget we are going to sign Brady ****ing Quinn to take us to the ship.

[suds79]

Say it with me folks. Tank! :P

Its going to work out okay for Indy.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Yes he is just for the simple fact that our D would get more rest. That alone is an upgrade.

Is the end result going to be more playoff wins? Highly doubtful given his career thus far...

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Don't forget we are going to sign Brady ****ing Quinn to take us to the ship.

If that happens.....I'm going to get soooooooo much shit.

[Mr. Laz]

signing guys and making a splash should help sign Manning imo

you can always 'find' the cap room

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Who's holding their breath here?

For the most part, it only seems to be the QB ideologues that are going to hold their breath and stamp their feet until the Chiefs just conjure a 'franchise QB' from whole !@#$ing cloth.

There isn't one available - there just isn't, not this season. Manning's not coming here, Flynn is just another Cassel, Tannehill is just not a smart pick given the talent available on the board. He may be good in 3 years, but in the next 3 years we can likely find someone just as talented (Tannehill is a 2nd rounder any other season).

Please God, quit repeating yourselves. We all know it's easier to win with a premier QB in this league but you can't just create one - you have to have one available to you. In lieu of same, find someone you can win with and surround them with the best team possible.

Eliminating the QB position, that team would be the best team in the AFC. What else can you ask for? Given the circumstances we find ourselves in, it's possible to construct a Super Bowl contender. I'd say that's a pretty exciting idea.

Or hell, just keep holding your breath and stomping your feet. I'm sure that will fix everything.

The rest of us will actually operate in the realm of reality.

I've already accepted reality.

This team isn't going to win a thing.

I agree with your entire plan all the way up to, but not including, signing Orton.

Orton and Cassel aren't that different. The BIG difference is that Orton is a free agent and it will cost MUCH more to sign him.

If we're going to get Solai and Winston and make all these moves, we're MUCH better off just keeping Cassel and working on the QB position later.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I view Orton and Cassel in the same breathe. Orton has always struggled in the red zone. I don't think that Orton will come here since Pioli isn't going to cut Cassel. This will be Cassels last opportunity.

I don't know how anyone could watch the way Orton played last season vs. the way Cassel played last season and see them as the same caliber player.

Orton did basic quarterback things like look of DBs and slide his protection that Cassel never did. He kept plays alive and found his 3rd reads unlike Cassel. He kept drives moving; even the ones that stalled in the red zone (often with a Bowe drop, a Jones stumble or an O'Connell...well whatever the !@#$ O'Connell did); unlike Cassel.

The eye test couldn't have yielded more dissimilar results. He simply plays the position correctly. Sometimes he's too aggressive, but with a defense like the Chiefs will have next season, that's fine; aggressive can be good.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't know how anyone could watch the way Orton played last season vs. the way Cassel played last season and see them as the same caliber player.

Orton did basic quarterback things like look of DBs and slide his protection that Cassel never did. He kept plays alive and found his 3rd reads unlike Cassel. He kept drives moving; even the ones that stalled in the red zone (often with a Bowe drop, a Jones stumble or an O'Connell...well whatever the !@#$ O'Connell did); unlike Cassel.

The eye test couldn't have yielded more dissimilar results. He simply plays the position correctly. Sometimes he's too aggressive, but with a defense like the Chiefs will have next season, that's fine; aggressive can be good.

The end result is not more WINS, and that's the only thing that matters.

[mcaj22]

Orton beat the Packers

something Cassel will never be able to do.

That alone is enough for me.