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Old 10-23-2014, 11:06 AM   #1
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Exactly. Then why sacrifice potentially giving away runs on D, when you have one of the best MLB OF's available to play off your bench. THAT and Aoki's post season numbers in 34 AB's are awful .206/.282/.206 So, how much are we really sacrificing on O? I'll take Dyson's speed and D, please.
Gotta side with Ned, man. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Dyson is a deadly late game option on the base paths, by the way. I like how he's doing it, and Aoki is still a better hitter than Dyson, even though he is quite streaky.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:54 AM   #2
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Exactly. Then why sacrifice potentially giving away runs on D, when you have one of the best MLB OF's available to play off your bench. THAT and Aoki's post season numbers in 34 AB's are awful .206/.282/.206 So, how much are we really sacrificing on O? I'll take Dyson's speed and D, please.
The idea is that you need as much offense as possible in the early innings so you can get that lead going into the 6th. Aoki's avg. may not be great, but he's been solid. He puts the bat on the ball and gives you that sacrifice fly to score a run when you a need it. Dyson doesn't really do that well.

Once you get that lead then you beef up the defense just a little bit since you know that with your bullpen you won't need to worry about the offense anymore in this game.

It's worked all year long. No need to change it now.
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Old 10-23-2014, 12:55 PM   #3
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Exactly. Then why sacrifice potentially giving away runs on D, when you have one of the best MLB OF's available to play off your bench. THAT and Aoki's post season numbers in 34 AB's are awful .206/.282/.206 So, how much are we really sacrificing on O? I'll take Dyson's speed and D, please.
Is Aoki really so bad on defense? He had two errors all season. Dyson had 4. It's a harder position, but it's not like Dyson's a Gold Glover.
Aoki is much better at the plate than Dyson. He may be hitting .206, but he's obvisouly a better hitter overall, and Dyson is 0-7 in the playoffs. Alex Gordon's hitting about .170 in the playoffs. We're not going to be benching him. Aoki's not at Dyson's level stealing bases, but he's not slow either. He had 17 SBs.
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Old 10-23-2014, 01:50 PM   #4
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Is Aoki really so bad on defense? He had two errors all season. Dyson had 4. It's a harder position, but it's not like Dyson's a Gold Glover.
Aoki is much better at the plate than Dyson. He may be hitting .206, but he's obvisouly a better hitter overall, and Dyson is 0-7 in the playoffs. Alex Gordon's hitting about .170 in the playoffs. We're not going to be benching him. Aoki's not at Dyson's level stealing bases, but he's not slow either. He had 17 SBs.
Are you really going to judge the two on errors committed?

First, your eyeballs should tell you clearly that Aoki stumbling around out there makes him far less adept defensively than Dyson. Misplays don't always result in official scoring errors.

Second, a better metric is Defensive Runs Saved. Dyson saved 14 runs this year, ninth among all MLB outfielders, and in only 691 innings played (Gordon had 27 and Cain 24 in far more playing time). Aoki was MINUS-8.

The gap defensively between the two players is FAR GREATER than the gap offensively.

Now, if you don't want to change what's been working, fine. That's probably what Ned's gonna do. But please don't argue that Aoki's D is fine and comparable to Dyson's.
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Old 10-23-2014, 09:58 AM   #7
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Hosmer will play all 3 games in San Fran, even with Bumgarner on the field.

He had good ABs and hit the ball hard twice off of Bumgarner (once for a single, once on that flyout to Blanco - a really nice play by Blanco to keep the ball from getting down, BTW).
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Hosmer will play all 3 games in San Fran, even with Bumgarner on the field.

He had good ABs and hit the ball hard twice off of Bumgarner (once for a single, once on that flyout to Blanco - a really nice play by Blanco to keep the ball from getting down, BTW).
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:40 AM   #9
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Aoki has been a turd in the WS thus far. At least when he was hitting, he had value. Now he's suddenly gone back to pre-August Aoki-san.

The only suggestion I've heard that even merits repeating is moving Hosmer to RF. The problem with that is that you sacrifice defense in RF AND 1B to do it. Keep your defense in tact. And I strongly consider Dyson in CF/Cain in RF for games 3 and 4 and then play Aoki against Bumgarner.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:42 AM   #10
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Old 10-23-2014, 06:28 PM   #11
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I can't see it happening both sides are adamant to changing it, makes it interesting having two different sets of rules for both leagues I think.
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I can't see it happening both sides are adamant to changing it, makes it interesting having two different sets of rules for both leagues I think.
If you are talking about the only people who matter (owners and players), I don't really see it as an insurmountable obstacle. I think we'll have all DH someday.
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ESPN poll on their website and current vote count for what its worth.

Which team will win the World Series?

67% Royals

33% Giants

(Total votes: 239,099)
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ESPN poll on their website and current vote count for what its worth.

Which team will win the World Series?

67% Royals

33% Giants

(Total votes: 239,099)
Ironically, when watching the game, they showed the Bank of America stat trivia thing and the team that won game 3 of the WS when they went in tied won the thing 67% of the time.
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