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Old 11-30-2014, 11:17 PM  
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Get rid of all these worthless players this offseason
AJ Jenkins
Donnie Avery
Mike DeVito (his Achilles' tendon is AIDS)
Mike McGlynn
Ryan Harris
Joe Mays
Chris Owens
Kurt Coleman
Josh Muaga
Jeff Linkenbach
Frankie Hammond Jr
Chase Daniel
Anthony Fasano
Jeff Allen

With McGrath's retirement money that is $20 million dollars to us next year. Cut these AIDS infested failures polluting this team and bring some quality players in.
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Old 12-01-2014, 12:56 AM   #46
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You'd have to think canning Mcglynn, Harris, Fulton, Fisher, Mauga, JMJ, Avery, Jenkins, and Cooper would be addition by subtraction.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:53 AM   #47
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Right now my offseason buh-bye list looks like this...

Let walk...

CB Chris Owens
DL Nick Williams (must have been a recent garbage pile find)
S Kurt Coleman
OG Jeff Linkenbach
OG Mike McGlynn
OT Ryan Harris
TE Philip Supernaw
WR Jason Avant (unless he turns into something, we'l see)

Cut...

OG Jeff Allen
S Sanders Commings
DE Mike DeVito
RB Cyrus Gray
WR AJ Jenkins
LB Derrick Johnson
FS Eric Berry (likely retirement I'm guessing)
WR Donnie Avery
WR Dwayne Bowe
QB Chase Daniel
LB Joe Mays
LB Tamba Hali

Long list I know...

Would plan to re-sign/tender...
S Ron Parker (and leave him at freakin FS)
DE Kevin Vickerson (only if he'll sign a 1 year vet min contract to allow KC to use the 570k vet cap rule)
LB Justin Houston
LB James-Michael Johnson
LB Josh Mauga
LB Josh Martin (ERFA tender)
LS Thomas Gafford
OC Rodney Hudson
WR Frankie Hammond (RFA tender)
WR Junior Hemmingway (ERFA tender)
TE Demetrius Harris (ERFA tender)
RB Joe McKnight


Free Agent targets currently on my radar... will expand...

ILB David Harris - NYJ (30 years old) likely contract about 6 mil per
OG James Carpenter - SEA (25 years old) likely contract about 7 mil per
WR Cecil Shorts - JAX (25 years old) likely contract about 2.5 mil per
WR Denarius Moore - OAK (25 years old) likely contract about 1.5 mil per
WR Jeremy Maclin - PHI (26 years old) likely contract 7 mil per
CB Devon House - GB (25 years old) likely contract 8.5 mil per

*likely contracts are my guess based on other contract/performance but may not be accurate

With cuts, Chiefs can likely afford about 7-8 million in free agency.
With re-signings and current roster, Chiefs would be at 45 players. Have 11 draft picks. Can add dumpster signings and 1 or 2 decent FA.

Could free up 1.95 mil with Fasano, 1.75 mil with Walker, 5.5 mil with Sean Smith if they wanted.

More drinks to come.
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Old 12-01-2014, 01:57 AM   #48
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You'd have to think canning Mcglynn, Harris, Fulton, Fisher, Mauga, JMJ, Avery, Jenkins, and Cooper would be addition by subtraction.
Fulton and Cooper might end up being solid players in the future. That said they should be depth until such a time comes...
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:09 AM   #49
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Way to many failed draft will do that to you.
There's hardly anyone we drafted on this list...
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:13 AM   #50
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Right now my offseason buh-bye list looks like this...

Let walk...

CB Chris Owens
DL Nick Williams (must have been a recent garbage pile find)
S Kurt Coleman
OG Jeff Linkenbach
OG Mike McGlynn
OT Ryan Harris
TE Philip Supernaw
WR Jason Avant (unless he turns into something, we'l see)

Cut...

OG Jeff Allen
S Sanders Commings
DE Mike DeVito
RB Cyrus Gray
WR AJ Jenkins
LB Derrick Johnson
FS Eric Berry (likely retirement I'm guessing)
WR Donnie Avery
WR Dwayne Bowe
QB Chase Daniel
LB Joe Mays
LB Tamba Hali

Long list I know...

Would plan to re-sign/tender...
S Ron Parker (and leave him at freakin FS)
DE Kevin Vickerson (only if he'll sign a 1 year vet min contract to allow KC to use the 570k vet cap rule)
LB Justin Houston
LB James-Michael Johnson
LB Josh Mauga
LB Josh Martin (ERFA tender)
LS Thomas Gafford
OC Rodney Hudson
WR Frankie Hammond (RFA tender)
WR Junior Hemmingway (ERFA tender)
TE Demetrius Harris (ERFA tender)
RB Joe McKnight


Free Agent targets currently on my radar... will expand...

ILB David Harris - NYJ (30 years old) likely contract about 6 mil per
OG James Carpenter - SEA (25 years old) likely contract about 7 mil per
WR Cecil Shorts - JAX (25 years old) likely contract about 2.5 mil per
WR Denarius Moore - OAK (25 years old) likely contract about 1.5 mil per
WR Jeremy Maclin - PHI (26 years old) likely contract 7 mil per
CB Devon House - GB (25 years old) likely contract 8.5 mil per

*likely contracts are my guess based on other contract/performance but may not be accurate

With cuts, Chiefs can likely afford about 7-8 million in free agency.
With re-signings and current roster, Chiefs would be at 45 players. Have 11 draft picks. Can add dumpster signings and 1 or 2 decent FA.

Could free up 1.95 mil with Fasano, 1.75 mil with Walker, 5.5 mil with Sean Smith if they wanted.

More drinks to come.
Yeah, it's a long list.

I've explained many times, you can free up cap space by signing players to contracts with a delayed bonus. First, you're cutting way too many players who are quality depth. Why get rid of guys like Allen who is a quality depth swing lineman, or Owens who is cheap corner depth? Second, this is all a panic reaction because of current cap situation. If you restructure a few base salaries in 2014, trim some fat, and sign guys like Houston to contracts with a high bonus and a deferred bonus in year 2 or 3, cap problem solved.
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:23 AM   #51
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Fulton and Cooper might end up being solid players in the future. That said they should be depth until such a time comes...
Cooper sucks. He had 2 good games and has been the league's running joke ever since. The guy has had plenty of opportunities and has not shown any sign of nfl ability.
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:47 AM   #52
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:49 AM   #53
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Or maybe rather than overreact, we might realize that half of this list includes cheap quality depth players. The problem isn't that these guys are all terrible. The problem is when most of them get way more starts than they should.
This is CP, though. They're all trained to overreact. We're running out there with backup depth players but lacking the high starter quality players. I'm happy we have that depth now, but maybe another draft will get us what we need. (OL, WR, ILB)
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Old 12-01-2014, 07:51 AM   #54
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Right now my offseason buh-bye list looks like this...

Let walk...

CB Chris Owens
DL Nick Williams (must have been a recent garbage pile find)
S Kurt Coleman
OG Jeff Linkenbach
OG Mike McGlynn
OT Ryan Harris
TE Philip Supernaw
WR Jason Avant (unless he turns into something, we'l see)

Cut...

OG Jeff Allen
S Sanders Commings
DE Mike DeVito
RB Cyrus Gray
WR AJ Jenkins
LB Derrick Johnson
FS Eric Berry (likely retirement I'm guessing)
WR Donnie Avery
WR Dwayne Bowe
QB Chase Daniel
LB Joe Mays
LB Tamba Hali

Long list I know...

Would plan to re-sign/tender...
S Ron Parker (and leave him at freakin FS)
DE Kevin Vickerson (only if he'll sign a 1 year vet min contract to allow KC to use the 570k vet cap rule)
LB Justin Houston
LB James-Michael Johnson
LB Josh Mauga
LB Josh Martin (ERFA tender)
LS Thomas Gafford
OC Rodney Hudson
WR Frankie Hammond (RFA tender)
WR Junior Hemmingway (ERFA tender)
TE Demetrius Harris (ERFA tender)
RB Joe McKnight


Free Agent targets currently on my radar... will expand...

ILB David Harris - NYJ (30 years old) likely contract about 6 mil per
OG James Carpenter - SEA (25 years old) likely contract about 7 mil per
WR Cecil Shorts - JAX (25 years old) likely contract about 2.5 mil per
WR Denarius Moore - OAK (25 years old) likely contract about 1.5 mil per
WR Jeremy Maclin - PHI (26 years old) likely contract 7 mil per
CB Devon House - GB (25 years old) likely contract 8.5 mil per

*likely contracts are my guess based on other contract/performance but may not be accurate

With cuts, Chiefs can likely afford about 7-8 million in free agency.
With re-signings and current roster, Chiefs would be at 45 players. Have 11 draft picks. Can add dumpster signings and 1 or 2 decent FA.

Could free up 1.95 mil with Fasano, 1.75 mil with Walker, 5.5 mil with Sean Smith if they wanted.

More drinks to come.
You'd keep Hammond and Hemingway?

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Old 12-01-2014, 08:10 AM   #55
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You'd keep Hammond and Hemingway?

GTFO
Who's going to drop passes and not get open next year if we cut Bowe and Avery?
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:11 AM   #56
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:14 AM   #57
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This is CP, though. They're all trained to overreact. We're running out there with backup depth players but lacking the high starter quality players. I'm happy we have that depth now, but maybe another draft will get us what we need. (OL, WR, ILB)
I'm not a fan of what Dorsey did in year 1, which I think cap strapped us a bit. While Dorsey has whiffed on first round picks, his haul of kelce, knile, and Gaines, I think, is a first round calibre haul. He gave out bad contracts in year 1 but I think this year we slotted well. The decision to cut back on spending and clean up the cap this year was an excellent decision as it will help us prepare for the long line of second contracts we have to extend in the next few years.

Dorseys has hit really well I'm areas he wasn't expected to. And he's whiffed on the easy stuff. He needs to improve a lot, but at least we are a better team with an improved cap situation. To me, the question will continue to be the coach and qb, two things I don't think Dorsey had much influence over.
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Old 12-01-2014, 08:16 AM   #58
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I'm not a fan of what Dorsey did in year 1, which I think cap strapped us a bit. While Dorsey has whiffed on first round picks, his haul of kelce, knile, and Gaines, I think, is a first round calibre haul. He gave out bad contracts in year 1 but I think this year we slotted well. The decision to cut back on spending and clean up the cap this year was an excellent decision as it will help us prepare for the long line of second contracts we have to extend in the next few years.

Dorseys has hit really well I'm areas he wasn't expected to. And he's whiffed on the easy stuff. He needs to improve a lot, but at least we are a better team with an improved cap situation. To me, the question will continue to be the coach and qb, two things I don't think Dorsey had much influence over.
That's how I've felt. I said last year that the contracts he handed out will haunt us. Bowe especially. I'm no fan of Smiths contract, but it's whatever. The reactionary aspect of CP is funny, though. Let's cut everybody because they sucked last night... When it ultimately falls on Reid and his staff for not making a solid game plan to counteract their shortcomings.
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