Charles Davis: Chiefs shouldn't move on from Smith unless they have his replacement

[Stargazer]

Fox Sports' Charles Davis is talking about the Chiefs and the loss to Tennessee as well as Andy Reid's playcalling in that game. He's also asked about Alex Smith and seems to believe that the Chiefs can't move on from him unless that have his replacement NOW.

8:00 min mark of video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjCQC4fo_CI

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

What makes you think that Foles will sign an extension for cheaper than Alex Smith is currently playing at? He has a salary bump to 10 million next year because he wants to start. He will only extend for starter money and it's rare to sign a starter for cheap these days.

Only Dalton is cheaper than Smith(other than rookie deals/backup bumped up)

Andy Reid.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I guess you quit sucking your uncle's dick long enough to take me off ignore?

Just in case.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

What makes you think that Foles will sign an extension for cheaper than Alex Smith is currently playing at? He has a salary bump to 10 million next year because he wants to start. He will only extend for starter money and it's rare to sign a starter for cheap these days.

Only Dalton is cheaper than Smith(other than rookie deals/backup bumped up)

Foles isnt the answer...keep Smith, draft his replacement and let Bray continue to think that he is a qb

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

With Alex Smith's low salary it wouldn't be difficult to develop a guy while Smith holds down the fort.

The problem is that i see no evidence to indicate that Reid/Dorsey are truly trying to replace Smith. Seems to me they are just casually trying to take the random shot at picking up a QB that they can turn around and trade for picks.

i see no sense of urgency at all

I think you will see the urgency in this coming draft. Not just because "Smiff sucks" and all of that jazz.. but because they must recognize that Smith is no spring chicken.. and one more concussion/serious injury would greatly accelerate his retirement plan.. if he isn't already at this point.

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

IIRC, his cap hit is almost $18M this season. I'm guessing that makes him the 10-12th highest paid QB in the league.

Are we getting 10-12th QB production?

I have a hard time believing we can't get 213 yards passing and .85 TD's a game out of damn near anyone else at a MUCH lower cost.

I'm seeing 16.9 mil as his cap hit to KC next season.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...ex-smith-3337/

puts him as the 21st QB in avr per yr
http://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/

[Saccopoo]

[rico]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Andy Reid.

I dunno, man... I really do think Andy loves him some Nick Foles. The article I'm pasting was one that was posted when Foles went to the Rams. Maclin and Reid seem to love Foles...and there really wasn't any reason for them to be saying such nice things about him at the time, for he wasn't a member of the Chiefs...

The common denominator for refusing acknowledge improvements at the position and proceeding to move on is Clark Hunt.

Sep 4, 2015
Nick Wagoner
ESPN Staff Writer
ST. LOUIS -- Even after an entire offseason, training camp and preseason, it's still hard to know what to expect from St. Louis Rams quarterback Nick Foles in his first year with the team.

But to hear Kansas City Chiefs coach Andy Reid and receiver Jeremy Maclin tell it, the Rams made a wise move bringing Foles in and giving him a two-year contract extension. In town for Thursday's preseason finale, Reid and Maclin -- both of whom spent time with Foles in Philadelphia -- were asked about Foles and both players offered high praise for the Rams' new starting signal-caller.

"You are asking one of Nick Foles’ biggest fans," Reid said. "He is smart, he has good accuracy, and he is a big body. A big strong guy, and he is young. He is going nowhere but up here. He is surrounded by good coaches and good skill players. I think he will do fine. He has to get back into this system. And it is just a matter of time.”

Of course, the Rams and their fans would prefer that it's not a matter of too much time as the Rams enter an important year for their future in town. The Rams clearly agree with Reid, having handed Foles a contract extension before he ever plays in a regular-season game for them.

While Reid obviously has ties to Foles that would indicate a bias, he also coached Foles before he stepped into current Eagles coach Chip Kelly's system. Reid runs a West Coast passing attack similar to what the Rams will ask of Foles so he should have at least some idea of how Foles' skills translate to what the Rams want him to do.

Foles played in seven games with six starts for Reid in 2012 after the Eagles used a third-round pick on him that year. Foles only won one of those starts and threw for 1,699 yards with six touchdowns and five interceptions for a rating of 79.1, but he earned the respect of Maclin and Reid in the process.

“I feel for starters, people can expect him to go out there and compete every single day," Maclin said. "That’s the type of person Nick is. He’s also a guy that, as far as talent, can make every throw on the football field. I’ve kind of heard the Rams guys saying ‘In 5 we trust’ and all that other stuff so that just goes to show you the type of respect people give him based off of the type of person he is and the type of player he is.”


Foles and Maclin didn't have many chances to play together because of Maclin's season-ending knee injury before the 2013 season, but even on the bench, Maclin said he could see why teammates were drawn to Foles.

Maclin pointed to a Week 3 win against Washington in 2014 as an example. In that game, Maclin said Foles took a borderline late hit as he threw a pass that was intercepted but overturned by replay. Foles bounced back and drove the Eagles to a 27-yard touchdown toss to Maclin that helped seal the victory.

"It’s just that type of will that he has that people just respect," Maclin said. "He was banged up after that, but it did not affect the way he finished the game.

“[He's] always positive. If anything goes bad, he’s the first one to take responsibility for it. For anyone leading the team, that’s kind of what you want.”

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Water is wet?

[MMXcalibur]

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I think you will see the urgency in this coming draft. Not just because "Smiff sucks" and all of that jazz.. but because they must recognize that Smith is no spring chicken.. and one more concussion/serious injury would greatly accelerate his retirement plan.. if he isn't already at this point.



I'm seeing 16.9 mil as his cap hit to KC next season.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...ex-smith-3337/

puts him as the 21st QB in avr per yr
http://overthecap.com/position/quarterback/

I'll believe it when I see it. Because, Chiefs.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You realize how many times you and others have played out these scenarios and yet it is known nothing will be done. 20-4. Likely to be 22-4 before the offseason

Quit wasting your time

0 Super Bowls
0 AFC Championship Games
0 AFC West Titles
1 Playoff win over a horrible Houston team

Facts not fiction. Bitch.

[notorious]

TigerUppercut is the ultimate Truefan.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Alright, I'll play along.

Fact is, they DON'T have Smith's replacement in the house right now. Would you want to see Foles as the "future face of the franchise"?

Dog vomit.

And as much as I like Bray on paper or you may like Hogan based upon his performance in college, those guys ARE what their draft position( or the lack thereof )says they are.

If the Chiefs never go round 2 or higher, they'll never have a legitimate pick at the position.

[kcchiefsus]

Originally Posted by Dagnabit

Alright, I'll play along.

Fact is, they DON'T have Smith's replacement in the house right now. Would you want to see Foles as the "future face of the franchise"?

Dog vomit.

And as much as I like Bray on paper or you may like Hogan based upon his performance in college, those guys ARE what their draft position( or the lack thereof )says they are.

If the Chiefs never go round 2 or higher, they'll never have a legitimate pick at the position.

And we know the second coming of Jesus will happen before we use a high pick at QB.

[Psyko Tek]

Originally Posted by Dante84

Hey, guys - real bold take here:

"You shouldn't belly flop into empty swimming pools"

Where's my goddamned Pulitzer

five of my seven best belly flops have been into empty pools

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

And we know the second coming of Jesus will happen before we use a high pick at QB.

Dorsey would do it, it's simply a matter of getting Reid and Hunt on board.

I'll beat this drum until I am dead:

As it stands today, John Dorsey is the only hope the Chiefs have for getting out of the past and moving toward a direction that is in step with the rest and best of the modern league.